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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4925789" data-attributes="member: 43019">Because it's a hell of a lot more convenient than saying:'Critical hits only trigger when you hit, and even if you automatically hit, you still need to hit to crit, and some abilities expand critical hits so they require things other than a 20, but that doesn't change the fact that you still need to hit nor does it make you automatically hit, because that's part of a whole 'nother rule not to be confused with this one'Precision is 'Some abilities let you get crits on other rolls. Those abilities still follow the rules. So, y'know, follow them.'Like Holy Ardor. Where lack of design or editing or the simple forgetting of the word 'can', like those other two powers I brought up that are almost _guaranteed_ to have simply been errors of omission, has apparently spawned a near-30 page argument of... nothing. On the other hand, like any good car accident, I can't help but watch and toss shells from the peanut gallery. I think the thing that bothers me most is how much is being discussed by people who don't have any reason to care about the ruling.</blockquote>