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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pazu" data-source="post: 1014803" data-attributes="member: 679">Good points, all.  I think in 3.0, a SC rogue would have been able to qualify at 7th level (requirement of 5 cross-class ranks in WL), so the new requirements shouldn't be too far off that.  I take it that rogues don't get Survival as a class skill in 3.5? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />On the flip side, I seem to recall that Intuit Direction is listed in the Update Guide as being "automatic with 5 ranks in Survival" (although I'm not sure how to interpret that), so maybe changing the requirement to 5 ranks in Survival makes the most sense.And you're right, I think the Royal Explorer actually comes across more like a glorified Expert than a class a PC would take.  Especially since now that rangers and bards get 6 skill points per level, the Explorer no longer offers a benefit in that area.  The hit die increases to d8...eh.  A free exotic weapon proficiency...but only intermediate BAB.  It's a shame; I really liked the concept of the class, but I would have approached it a bit differently in the design.-- Pazu</blockquote>