[Adult] I think it's balanced now - Prestige Class (The Passionate)

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I have a prestige class here for the Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. There isn't anything especially graphic in it, but nonetheless it is of an adult subject. I request that anyone who does that sort of thing please tell me what they think of it, balance-wise. Please, no angry comments regarding it being "stupid" - I know it's stupid already. ^_^

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The Passionate

"Some people think that pleasure is magic. They are fools. They take the most wonderful thing in the world and corrupt it in to a lesser state. We know better. Pleasure is a power unlike any other, and we are its masters."

The Passionate (always written with a capital P) are a loose organization of sexual cabalists who gain power from sexual contact directly, without using it to power sexual rituals or calling on the gods of pleasure. They tap directly in to the nascent power of the Elemental Plane of Eros, and can, through this power, become living emblems of the ideal of passion. They move faster, harder, and stronger. Their beauty is unmatched. Their touch can change someone forever. They are the warriors of love, passion, and lust.
Passionates require a patron Incarna in order to tap in to their powers, not unlike a cleric depending on his god. The four Incarna's, Lust, Desire, Love, and Perversion, are powerful Elementals from the Elemental Plane of Eros, likened to the Elemental Lords of the planes of Earth, Fire, Water, and Air.
Passionates devoted to Lust can only be Chaotic Evil or Chaotic Neutral. Passionates devoted to Desire or Perversion can only be Chaotic Neutral. Passionates devoted to Love can only be Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral.

Prerequisites
Sexual Prowess: 8 ranks
Feats: Skill Focus (Sexual Prowess), Endurance
Alignment: Any Chaotic
Sex Tricks: Adaptive Lover (Any), Easy to Read, Intuitive Lover, Species Focus (Any)
Special: Must have visited the Elemental Plane of Eros and coupled with a Lust Elemental while there. It is highly recommended that this requirement not be waived under any circumstances.

Class Features:
Hit Die: d6
Base Attack Bonus: As Rogue
Saving Throws: As Rogue
Class Skills, Skill Points: As Monk + Sexual Prowess

Class Abilities by Level:
1st: Sex is Power, Sex Appeal, Passionate Heart
2nd: Heartwatch, Sensual Touch
3rd: Seductive Grace, Second Home
4th: Eros Strike
5th: Stunning Beauty
6th: Twisting Gaze
7th: Strength of Passion
8th: Uncontrollable Passion
9th: Pounding Heart
10th: Avatar of the Incarna

Sex is Power (Ex): A Passionate requires near-constant sexual contact in order to fuel their powers. In order to use the abilities of any given level of Passionate, he must have had sexual contact a number of times within the last 24 hours at least equal to the level of Passionate that the ability is acquired at. For example, to gain Sex Appeal as a virtual feat, an ability acquired at 1st level, a Passionate must have had sexual contact at least once in the last 24 hours. If they go 24 hours without sexual contact, they lose the ability until they once more have sexual contact.
This restriction is in place because of how the Passionate fuels his abilities. Upon completing sexual contact, the Passionate's partner becomes, in essence, a gateway to the Elemental Plane of Eros, pouring energy in to the passionate. Because of this, if the Passionate's partner is slain, petrified, or on another plane of existence from the Passionate, then they are no longer considered to have had sexual contact with the passionate. For example, if a Passionate has sex three times, gaining the ability Seductive Grace, and then one of his partners is killed, he immediately loses that ability, retaining only his second level abilities until he once more has sexual contact.
Sexual contact is defined as intimate physical contact that ends with the orgasm of one or more of the people involved. Each sexual contact must be with a different partner - Having sex with the same person 10 times does not power their abilities more than having sex with them once.
Fortunately, this same requirement also gives him an incredible level of sexual stamina. No matter how often a Passionate has sex, he won't become exhausted and will always be able to continue almost immediately (a few rounds) afterward.

Sex Appeal (Su): At 1st level, a Passionate gains Sex Appeal as a virtual feat. If he actually has the feat Sex Appeal, the bonuses gained from that feat are doubled. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Passionate Heart (Su): A Passionate gains a Competetence bonus to all sexual prowess checks equal to twice their Passionate level. Their reputation for being sexual dynamos is easily true. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Heartwatch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to see a lifeforms sexual aura (or lackthereof) and its details. A Passionate can acertain the sexual orientation, sexual desire, and all other relavent details of a creature's sexuality as a move equivalent action. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Sensual Touch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to helplessly daze an opponent with his caress at will. As a standard action, he may make a melee touch attack that affects his target as the Daze cantrip unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) This is a mind affecting effect. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Seductive Grace (Su): At 3rd level, a Passionate's body is infused with small levels of pure erotic energy, giving them unnaturally beautiful grace and a remarkably flexible anatomy. They gain a +2 bonus to Dexterity and a +4 Competence bonus to Tumble, Escape Artist, Balance, and physical Perform checks. Additionally, they gain Dexterous Lover as a bonus sex trick. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Second Home (Sp): At 3rd level a Passionate can cast Eros Shift as a spell like ability once per day. At 7th, they gain the ability to use this spell at will. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Eros Strike (Su): At 4th level, a Passionate learns to channel his erotic energy in to a dangerously potent form. As a standard action once per hour, he can make a melee touch attack to slap a foe with his hand, sending a surge of eros energy through their bodies. This energy forces the target to fall unconscious for 2d8 hours or until roused unless they make a Fortitude save (DC 12 + Cha modifier). Targets who are rendered unconscious by this attack remain in a state of erotic dream. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Stunning Beauty (Su): At 5th level, a Passionate's beauty becomes so overwhelming that it can leave mortals breathless with awe. All targets within 30 feet of the Passionate who look directly at him are Stunned for 1 round unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) Targets of this ability, whether they make their save or not, are immune to it forever thereafter. If the Passionate has the Sex Appeal feat, the duration of the Stunning affect is doubled. This is a mind affecting effect.
The Passionate cannot turn off this ability, but can hide their beauty using cloaks or the like in order to protect others from the stunning effect and to hide their power. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Beautiful Eyes (Su): At 6th level, a Passionate's eyes begin to glow with sexual energy, giving him a permanent gaze attack, range of 30 feet, Will save DC 12 + Cha modifier. Targets who fail their save against this effect are affected as by the Arousal cantrip. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Strength of Passion (Su): At 7th level, the erotic energy filling the body of the Passionate increases, allowing them to not only move faster, but with greater power and strength. They gain a +2 bonus to Strength and a +4 competence bonus to Jump, Climb, and Swim checks. Additionally, they gain Powerful Lover as a bonus sex trick. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Uncontrollable Passion (Su): At 8th level, it becomes unclear whether the Passionate uses his passion or his passion uses him. Whenever the Passionate hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours, he must immediately make a Will save (DC 20) or go in to a sexual frenzy, doing everything possible within the constraints of his alignment to have sexual contact until he no longer hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours.
On the bright side, he can inflict this same desperate passion on others with a gaze attack, igniting his eyes with erotic power. Once per day he can activate a gaze attack for two rounds. This gaze attack causes the victim to enter a sexual frenzy, as above, for 2d3 hours or until somehow satisfied. Will save DC 20 to resist.
The ability to affect others with this ability is limited by Sex is Power, but the Passionate's own sexual nymphomania is inescapable except by losing levels of the Passionate class.

Pounding Heart (Su): At 9th level, a Passionate becomes completely infused with erotic energy. Even his metabolism is primarily powered by erotic power. At 9th level, a Passionate no longer needs to eat, and can hold his breath for five times as long as normal, although this gives him no special protection against crushing depths of water or the depths of space. Additionally, he gains a +2 bonus to Constitution as long as he's had sexual contact in the last hour. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Proxy of the Incarna (Su): At 10th level, a Passionate becomes a Proxy for his patron Incarna. Aside from becoming a representative of the Incarna and whatever authority that provides, he can ignite a Storm of Passion once per day. This is powerful storm of erotic energy, a 20' emanation centered on the Passionate, that lasts 2d4 rounds. Once a round, at the beginning of the Passionate's initiative, the closest target to the Passionate within the range of the emanation is affected by a mind-affecting effect determined by the Passionate's patron Incarna, unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 20 + Cha modifier). These effects are listed as follows:
Lust: The target is compelled to forcibly mate with the closest available creature, their mind clouded by overwhelming lust. This effect lasts one hour.
Desire: The target becomes obsessed with finding the object of her deepest desire, revealed to her by the power of the Incarna. They will immediately flee combat (as though Frightened) to search it out. This effect lasts 4d4 rounds. When it ends, the target can no longer remember what they were looking for.
Love: The target immediately falls in love with the first creature it sees. This love cannot be cured short of a Wish or Miracle and lasts 3d4 weeks.
Perversion: The target permanently takes on a random perversion, chosen by d10:
1 - Teratophilia (A dangerous monster fetish)
2 - Chromophilia (A color fetish)
3 - Sadomasochism (An enjoyment of inflicting and receiving pain in sex)
4 - Submissive/Dominant (An enjoyment of either being controlled or controlling a lover during the sex act.)
5 - Devoraphila (An eating fetish)
6 - Zoophila (A fetish for sex with non-sentient creatures not of your species)
7 - Xenophilia (A fetish for sex with sentient creatures not of your species)
8 - Necrophilia (A fetish for sex with the dead or undead)
9 - Magophila (A fetish for sex altered by magical effects)
10 - Coprophilia (A fetish for wastes and excrements.)
This fetish can cured with a Remove Curse, Heal, Restoration, Wish, Miracle, or any healing effect of equal or higher power.
This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

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I wrote a really nice little thing on this class and balance issues and everything. I was happy with it and it apperently took to long as when I tried to post it the server was busy and I lost it. So, I'll write another one later. Sorry about that. Just wanted to let you know I tried. :)
 

Crothian said:
I wrote a really nice little thing on this class and balance issues and everything. I was happy with it and it apperently took to long as when I tried to post it the server was busy and I lost it.

Next time, just hit the Back button in your browser. It'll take you back to the post page and you can leave it there and try again later, or you can copy out your text for later.
 

kreynolds said:


Next time, just hit the Back button in your browser. It'll take you back to the post page and you can leave it there and try again later, or you can copy out your text for later.

THanks, but believe it or not I tried that. I kept getting Server Busy errors. So, I even went hunting through my cache to no avail. I was really upset that it happened. It was the first line by line review of anything I've done, and frankly next time I'm not putting that much effort into it.
 


Good... I think...

Well, having not taken the {ahem} opportunity to read The Guide, I read this class and it looks, if nothing else, balanced.

A couple of questions I have, which may be answered in The Guide: Is it really necessary for someone to have sex a number of times per day (or 24 hour period) equal to their level in order to maintain power? By 10th level, the person would have to be spending more time having sex than anything else. Now, mind you, I can see the advantages. On the other hand, it doesn't make for very good dungeon crawling with a party of five. So you nail each of your party members (pardon the pun) in the morning, and grab Bill the Pony's flanks after breakfast for a little extra boost. By that time, a couple of your party members are ready to go again, so you do them before putting on armor. You still have to find a couple of bugbears or whatnot running around to get you up to full power. That seems like a lot of work every morning just to be able to get through the day with a full compliment of skills.

The other thing, somewhat related, is, what's the maximum number of times a character can have sex in a day? I'm sure The Guide has addressed this, and, if I were making a rule, it would be 1+CON Modifier. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm pretty much useless after three.

It's an intriguing class you've put together. I can see using it in a campaign as an NPC template for an evil temptress.

Ideas are brewing... Players watch out!
 

The Passionate

>>>>Flavor is interesting. It does seem to describer the class well and give it some life. Please not I’m not a reader of the Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, so I will be asking question about things I’m not sure about

Prerequisites
Sexual Prowess: 8 ranks
Feats: Skill Focus (Sexual Prowess), Endurance
Alignment: Any Chaotic
Sex Tricks: Adaptive Lover (Any), Easy to Read, Intuitive Lover, Species Focus (Any)
Special: Must have visited the Elemental Plane of Eros and coupled with a Lust Elemental while there. It is highly recommended that this requirement not be waived under any circumstances.

>>>>How hard is it to learn sex tricks? Is it available to all classes are just certain classes? The two feats and the skill points seem fine. Based on the skill points someone has to be 5th level to get this. Can the other abilities be gotten by 5th as well? Traveling to another plane and coupling sounds a little on the difficult side. Anything about that that makes it harder or easier then normal planar requirements?

Class Features:
Hit Die: d10
Base Attack Bonus: As Fighter
Saving Throws: As Monk
Class Skills, Skill Points: As Monk + Sexual Prowess

>>>>Class features are amazingly good. Actually, they can’t get much better. Best saves and best BAB does not seem to fit this class; same with the d10 HD. You have nothing combat related in the prerequisites, so why do they get all these great combat class features?

Class Abilities by Level:
1st: Sex is Power, Sex Appeal, Passionate Heart
2nd: Heartwatch, Sensual Touch
3rd: Seductive Grace, Second Home
4th: Eros Strike
5th: Stunning Beauty
6th: Twisting Gaze
7th: Strength of Passion
8th: Uncontrollable Passion
9th: Pounding Heart
10th: Avatar of the Incarna

Sex is Power (Ex): A Passionate requires near-constant sexual contact in order to fuel their powers. In order to use the abilities of any given level of Passionate, he must have had sexual contact a number of times within the last 24 hours at least equal to the level of Passionate that the ability is acquired at. For example, to gain Sex Appeal as a virtual feat, an ability acquired at 1st level, a Passionate must have had sexual contact at least once in the last 24 hours. If they go 24 hours without sexual contact, they lose the ability until they once more have sexual contact.
This restriction is in place because of how the Passionate fuels his abilities. Upon completing sexual contact, the Passionate's partner becomes, in essence, a gateway to the Elemental Plane of Eros, pouring energy in to the passionate. Because of this, if the Passionate's partner is slain, petrified, or on another plane of existence from the Passionate, then they are no longer considered to have had sexual contact with the passionate. For example, if a Passionate has sex three times, gaining the ability Seductive Grace, and then one of his partners is killed, he immediately loses that ability, retaining only his second level abilities until he once more has sexual contact.

>>>>What constitutes sexual contact? 10 times a day is a lot if it’s going all the way. And that is quite time consuming to do so once (or at least in theory should be). This is obviously a limit on the class, but might be a bit much of one.

Sex Appeal (Su): At 1st level, a Passionate gains Sex Appeal as a virtual feat. If he actually has the feat Sex Appeal, the bonuses gained from that feat are doubled. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.

Passionate Heart (Su): A Passionate gains a Competetence bonus to all sexual prowess checks equal to twice their Passionate level. Their reputation for being sexual dynamos is easily true.

Heartwatch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to see a lifeforms sexual aura (or lackthereof) and its details. A Passionate can acertain the sexual orientation, sexual desire, and all other relavent details of a creature's sexuality as a move equivalent action.

Sensual Touch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to helplessly daze an opponent with his caress at will. As a standard action, he may make a melee touch attack that affects his target as the Daze cantrip unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) This is a mind affecting effect.

Seductive Grace (Su): At 3rd level, a Passionate's body is infused with small levels of pure erotic energy, giving them unnaturally beautiful grace and a remarkably flexible anatomy. They gain a +2 bonus to Dexterity and a +4 Competence bonus to Tumble, Escape Artist, Balance, and physical Perform checks. Additionally, they gain Dexterous Lover as a bonus sex trick.

>>>>Without knowing what these do, it’s hard to say if they are balanced. However, a +2 to dexterity and the +4 to four skills is very strong.

Second Home (Sp): At 3rd level a Passionate can cast Eros Shift as a spell like ability once per day. At 7th, they gain the ability to use this spell at will.

>>>>Again, I don’t know what the spell does, but going from one a day to at will is a huge leap and might be too much.

Eros Strike (Su): At 4th level, a Passionate learns to channel his erotic energy in to a dangerously potent form. As a standard action once per hour, he can make a melee touch attack to slap a foe with his hand, sending a surge of eros energy through their bodies. This energy does 4d8+Cha bonus subdual damage to the target as their mind struggles (and ultimately fails) to deal with the enormous torrent of passion flowing through it. Targets who are rendered unconscious by this attack remain so for a number of hours equal to the damage inflicted by the attack, during which they remain in a state of erotic dream.

>>>>This is just odd. I’d make the unconscious a saving throw. The way you have it, it is based on current hps. Also the amount of time unconscious is too long. On average with an 18 charisma is 22 hours. That can be very powerful to take some out for that long with no save. You also might want to limit this to once a day.

Stunning Beauty (Su): At 5th level, a Passionate's beauty becomes so overwhelming that it can leave mortals breathless with awe. All targets within 30 feet of the Passionate who look directly at him are Stunned for 1 round unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) Targets of this ability, whether they make their save or not, are immune to it for one day thereafter. If the Passionate has the Sex Appeal feat, the duration of the Stunning affect is doubled. This is a mind affecting effect.

>>>>Can this ability be turned off and on? Otherwise, you’re really going to draw a lot of attention to yourself as everyone around you is being stunned. Imagine walking through a big city with this ability.

Twisting Gaze (Su): At 6th level, a Passionate's eyes begin to glow with sexual energy, giving him a permanent gaze attack, range of 30 feet, Will save DC 12 + Cha modifier. Targets who fail their save against this effect are permanently rendered bisexual.

>>>>Okay, what’s the purpose of this? It seems sort of pointless to do that too people.

Strength of Passion (Su): At 7th level, the erotic energy filling the body of the Passionate increases, allowing them to not only move faster, but with greater power and strength. They gain a +2 bonus to Strength and a +4 competence bonus to Jump, Climb, and Swim checks. Additionally, they gain Powerful Lover as a bonus sex trick.

>>>>Again this is probably too strong. Especially since they get the Dex boost at an earlier level.

Uncontrollable Passion (Su): At 8th level, it becomes unclear whether the Passionate uses his passion or his passion uses him. Whenever the Passionate hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours, he must immediately make a Will save (DC 20) or go in to a sexual frenzy, doing everything possible within the constraints of his alignment to have sexual contact until he no longer hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours.
On the bright side, he can inflict this same desperate passion on others with a gaze attack, igniting his eyes with erotic power. Once per day he can activate a gaze attack for two rounds. This gaze attack causes the victim to enter a sexual frenzy, as above, for 2d3 hours. Will save DC 20 to resist.

>>>>Another nice limiting factor, but the gaze should last 2d3 hours or until satisfied. Or something like that.

Pounding Heart (Su): At 9th level, a Passionate becomes completely infused with erotic energy. Even his metabolism is primarily powered by erotic power. At 9th level, a Passionate no longer needs to eat, and can hold his breath for five times as long as normal, although this gives him no special protection against crushing depths of water or the depths of space. Additionally, he gains a +2 bonus to Constitution as long as he's had sexual contact in the last hour.

>>>>Another attribute boost. Again, too much.

Proxy of the Incarna (Su): At 10th level, a Passionate becomes a Proxy for his patron Incarna. Aside from becoming a representative of the Incarna and whatever authority that provides, he can ignite a Storm of Passion once per day. This is powerful storm of erotic energy, a 20' emanation centered on the Passionate, that lasts 2d4 rounds. Once a round, at the beginning of the Passionate's initiative, the closest target to the Passionate within the range of the emanation is affected by a mind-affecting effect determined by the Passionate's patron Incarna, unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 20). These effects are listed as follows:
Lust: The target is compelled to forcibly mate with the closest available creature. This effect lasts one hour.
Desire: The target's mind is clouded with her deepest fantasy, sending her in to a dreamworld of her own devising. This knocks the target unconscious for 1d4 hours or until roused.
Love: The target immediately falls in love with the first creature it sees. This love cannot be cured short of a Wish or Miracle and lasts 3d4 weeks.
Perversion: The target permanently takes on a random perversion, chosen by d10:
1 - Teratophilia (A dangerous monster fetish)
2 - Chromophilia (A color fetish)
3 - Sadomasochism (An enjoyment of inflicting and receiving pain in sex)
4 - Submissive/Dominant (An enjoyment of either being controlled or controlling a lover during the sex act.)
5 - Devoraphila (An eating fetish)
6 - Zoophila (A fetish for sex with non-sentient creatures not of your species)
7 - Xenophilia (A fetish for sex with sentient creatures not of your species)
8 - Necrophilia (A fetish for sex with the dead or undead)
9 - Magophila (A fetish for sex altered by magical effects)
10 - Coprophilia (A fetish for wastes and excrements.)
This fetish can cured with a Remove Curse, Heal, Restoration, Wish, Miracle, or any healing effect of equal or higher power.

>>>>Overall, good idea and lots of cool abilities, but overpowered.
 

best saves, best attacks and (almost) best HD?

Seems more than a bit much, I'd say. Should model saves, HD and attacks after one of the existing classes.

Also, this guy is going to be exiled from any civilized town when he ends up screwing everyone in a 30' radius just to keep his powers going. Not to mention how uncomfortable most parties will be to find that they need to have daily orgies. None of my characters has ever really wanted *that* much. :)
 

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