Advanced Classes

[Philip]

Would a Ftr5/Ran5/Adv.Ftr5/Adv.Ran5 have this:

+20 base attack bonus
10d10+10d8 Hit Dice
11 fighter bonus feats
All ranger special abilities (including spells)
Saves: +14 Fort, +10 Ref, +6 Will
92 skill point base

As compared to a Ftr20, who's only advantage is 10 more hp?

 

[Cheiromancer]

Cheiromancer,

It seems interesting, but I am afraid I must think it over as well. At first glance it doesn't seem intuitive.

I'm probably wording it funny. If anyone knows how it can be made clearer...

And I thought the problem was primarily with spellcasters. Non-spellcasting classes already stack reasonably well, now they get advantages too?

Yes. Though if it turns out to be a problem, DMs could probably rule otherwise.

And what do you mean with getting special abilities? Feats, sneak attack, divine grace, bard songs, damage reduction, everything of those?

Yes.

 

[Cheiromancer]

Would a Ftr5/Ran5/Adv.Ftr5/Adv.Ran5 have this:

+20 base attack bonus
10d10+10d8 Hit Dice
11 fighter bonus feats
All ranger special abilities (including spells)
Saves: +14 Fort, +10 Ref, +6 Will
92 skill point base

As compared to a Ftr20, who's only advantage is 10 more hp?

They have the special abilities of a 15th level Ranger and a 15th level fighter. So they don't get the 16th, 18th or 20th level Fighter feats, or the full spellcasting and favored enemy stuff of a Ranger. But they do get the bonus feats for being a Ranger.

Advanced classes are intended to be an alternative to prestige classes, so you might want to think what a prestige class would offer that required you to be a Ftr5/Ran5 to enter.

[edit] I actually don't think it is possible, using these rules, to have a Ftr5/Ran5/AdvFtr5/AdvRan5. There is no legal 19th level build for this character. What you need is a Ftr 6/Ran6/AdvFtr4/AdvRan4, with 14th level special abilities in both classes.[/edit]