Advancement questions

farscapesg1

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First, let me start by saying that I am not the DM in our group. I realize that he will make all final decisions (and the questions within are due in part to his decision to allow a custom-made prestige class), but I need some advice.

Can anyone point me in the direction of some solid rules for advancement of creatures? I've searched the Monster Manual, but it doesn't really provide the answers that I need. It is actually pretty vague on a lot of issues that I need to clear up.

What are the exact changes to a creature if it gains 2 Hit Dice? Some creatures are pretty easy to figure out, others are not.

Take a Celestial Badger for instance. What is the creature's new BAB, Saves, Size, etc? What BAB progression do most creatures follow? Saveing Throw progression? Since the Badger would now have 3 Hit Dice, would it gain a bonus feat? Would it still be considered a small creature?

Now, what about a Celestial Bison?

At least most of the Vermin give advancment listings for up to 3 times their original Hit Dice, but the Animals don't seem to give this same range.

Then there are the Elementals. Adding 2 Hit Dice to a small elemental gives it the same Hit Dice as a medium elemental, so how should this be treated?

Obviously, this is going to require more paperwork on my part, and probably a lot of discussion between the DM and myself, but I would like any advice that can be given on the issue.
 

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All of your questions you're asking are covered in exhaustive (and IMO, very clear) detail in the MM, so I'm guessing you just haven't looked at the correct section. Check pages 290-293, and especially the sidebar "Example of Monster Advancement".
 

Shilsen has the right of it. There is an entire chapter on advancing monsters in the MM, and it is very good.

Monster BAB, saves and skill points vary by type; they get feats like characters do (1 at 1 HD plus one per 3 HD).
 

Doh! Somehow I missed that entire 3 pages :heh:

So, I just have to take the scores for the original creature and compare them in the PHB to figure out which good saves they have and their BAB progression.

Thanks for knocking me over the head ;)
 

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