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<blockquote data-quote="Sir Whiskers" data-source="post: 1333973" data-attributes="member: 6941"><p>Compared to the Gorgon (CR 8):</p><p>HP: 171 vs. 85</p><p>Init: +2 vs. +4</p><p>Spd: 40 ft., fly 120 ft. vs. 30 ft.</p><p>AC: 13 vs. 20</p><p>BAB/Grapple: +16/+24 vs. +8/+17</p><p>Attack: +19, 2d6+6 vs. +12, 1d8+7</p><p>Reach: 10 ft. vs. 5 ft.</p><p>SA: petrification (DC 25) vs. petrification breath (DC 19)</p><p></p><p>Based on this comparison, I'd rate the Large Cockatrice as CR 10. It's hit points, BAB, and DC are comparable to other CR 10 creatures. It's AC is low, but 171 is a lot of hit points. The only area the gorgon really overshadows the cockatrice is the breath weapon, whereas the cockatrice's petrification is tied to its bite attack.</p><p></p><p>BTW, you might consider changing the reach to 5 ft. Not all Large creatures have 10 ft. reach (see the Gorgon), and losing reach would tone it down slightly. If you do so, I'd consider CR 9 (though I think it's on the high side of CR 9 even then). All IMHO, of course.</p><p></p><p>Nasty creature. I hope the party knows what they're getting into, or has a lot of <em>stone to flesh</em> scrolls... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir Whiskers, post: 1333973, member: 6941"] Compared to the Gorgon (CR 8): HP: 171 vs. 85 Init: +2 vs. +4 Spd: 40 ft., fly 120 ft. vs. 30 ft. AC: 13 vs. 20 BAB/Grapple: +16/+24 vs. +8/+17 Attack: +19, 2d6+6 vs. +12, 1d8+7 Reach: 10 ft. vs. 5 ft. SA: petrification (DC 25) vs. petrification breath (DC 19) Based on this comparison, I'd rate the Large Cockatrice as CR 10. It's hit points, BAB, and DC are comparable to other CR 10 creatures. It's AC is low, but 171 is a lot of hit points. The only area the gorgon really overshadows the cockatrice is the breath weapon, whereas the cockatrice's petrification is tied to its bite attack. BTW, you might consider changing the reach to 5 ft. Not all Large creatures have 10 ft. reach (see the Gorgon), and losing reach would tone it down slightly. If you do so, I'd consider CR 9 (though I think it's on the high side of CR 9 even then). All IMHO, of course. Nasty creature. I hope the party knows what they're getting into, or has a lot of [I]stone to flesh[/I] scrolls... :eek: [/QUOTE]
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