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<blockquote data-quote="ryryguy" data-source="post: 5009332" data-attributes="member: 64945"><p>[sblock=Fire Hawk]It's from primal power, and it's in the compendium now. I believe it's been a month since primal power came out so it should be "street legal". I pretty much copied the exact text of the power onto my sheet.</p><p></p><p>I agree, it could use clarification, but I think the fact that it triggers if the target does something that "<strong>can</strong> provoke an attack of opportunity" (not "does provoke" or "provokes") means there doesn't have to be an adjacent ally. Also, the power is just really weak if an adjacent ally is required. </p><p></p><p>If not, it's definitely a good strong power, but not <strong>too</strong> good, I think. Consider: it doesn't apply any conditions. The opportunity attack requires another successful hit roll (it doesn't auto-damage), and it doesn't apply any conditions, either. The amount of damage potential is very good for a controller, but not crazy good, and again, it's not certain the druid will actually get to make the second attack or hit with it.</p><p></p><p>A final limitation is that the druid can't take the opportunity attack if he's in beast form, since the opportunity attack is listed as its own power ("Fire Hawk Attack") and doesn't have the beast form keyword. (There seems to be some debate about a follow-on secondary attack, like that granted by Grasping Tide, but since Fire Hawk makes it a separate power it seems pretty clear cut to me.)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I did make a post on the WotC rules forum asking these very questions. Opinions are split but more seem to lean to the "don't need an adjacent ally" theory. Here it is for whatever it's worth: <a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/21876205/Fire_Hawk_opportunity_attack" target="_blank">Rules Q&A</a>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ryryguy, post: 5009332, member: 64945"] [sblock=Fire Hawk]It's from primal power, and it's in the compendium now. I believe it's been a month since primal power came out so it should be "street legal". I pretty much copied the exact text of the power onto my sheet. I agree, it could use clarification, but I think the fact that it triggers if the target does something that "[B]can[/B] provoke an attack of opportunity" (not "does provoke" or "provokes") means there doesn't have to be an adjacent ally. Also, the power is just really weak if an adjacent ally is required. If not, it's definitely a good strong power, but not [B]too[/B] good, I think. Consider: it doesn't apply any conditions. The opportunity attack requires another successful hit roll (it doesn't auto-damage), and it doesn't apply any conditions, either. The amount of damage potential is very good for a controller, but not crazy good, and again, it's not certain the druid will actually get to make the second attack or hit with it. A final limitation is that the druid can't take the opportunity attack if he's in beast form, since the opportunity attack is listed as its own power ("Fire Hawk Attack") and doesn't have the beast form keyword. (There seems to be some debate about a follow-on secondary attack, like that granted by Grasping Tide, but since Fire Hawk makes it a separate power it seems pretty clear cut to me.) Anyway, I did make a post on the WotC rules forum asking these very questions. Opinions are split but more seem to lean to the "don't need an adjacent ally" theory. Here it is for whatever it's worth: [url=http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/21876205/Fire_Hawk_opportunity_attack]Rules Q&A[/url][/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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