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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5203466" data-attributes="member: 2011">[sblock=Drowning]I think you guys missed some of the drowning rules out of the DMG and only saw the hold breath ones in the PHB.Both Val and River took damage in the round that pushed them into the water, but only River needs to make a DC 20 Endurance check since Val (assuming he uses his same swim actions) is not underwater at the end of his turn.A PC could theoretically be dead in Surge + a couple of rounds depending on how much damage that PC takes.Not so deadly in the first encounter, but it could be fairly harsh if the PC has few surges remaining. And even without it being a later encounter, it could still suck up some healing surges.Also, the failed swim checks result in a PC sinking one square. That's still movement (failed swim movement, no different than purposely swimming down a square) and should result in an Opportunity Attack by the foe (ditto if DB23 fails a swim check and ends up underwater as well, OA by River if River has a weapon out).Btw, DB23 should be heroic level. He only has one healing surge. If he fails a swim check, he too took damage this round by Sheeva and would need to make an Endurance check. Not so big of a deal this round, but he might start taking more damage by drowning as well in future rounds.[/sblock]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5203466, member: 2011"] [sblock=Drowning] I think you guys missed some of the drowning rules out of the DMG and only saw the hold breath ones in the PHB. Both Val and River took damage in the round that pushed them into the water, but only River needs to make a DC 20 Endurance check since Val (assuming he uses his same swim actions) is not underwater at the end of his turn. A PC could theoretically be dead in Surge + a couple of rounds depending on how much damage that PC takes. Not so deadly in the first encounter, but it could be fairly harsh if the PC has few surges remaining. And even without it being a later encounter, it could still suck up some healing surges. Also, the failed swim checks result in a PC sinking one square. That's still movement (failed swim movement, no different than purposely swimming down a square) and should result in an Opportunity Attack by the foe (ditto if DB23 fails a swim check and ends up underwater as well, OA by River if River has a weapon out). Btw, DB23 should be heroic level. He only has one healing surge. If he fails a swim check, he too took damage this round by Sheeva and would need to make an Endurance check. Not so big of a deal this round, but he might start taking more damage by drowning as well in future rounds. [/sblock] [/QUOTE]

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