[Adventurer's Vault] Problematic Items

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

True, but I think the whole point is "why have a normal dagger when you could have a distance dagger for the same price?"

Because you deal less damage on average?

 

[Prism]

True, but I think the whole point is "why have a normal dagger when you could have a distance dagger for the same price?"

For many uses a normal +1 dagger is better than a distance dagger because doing more damage on a crit is better than an increase in range. Especially if you are not throwing it ;-)

 

[Prism]

But even Masterwork Light Armor gets a +1 to +2 bonus. And other defenses don't. That was my point.

Yeah, I'm not too sure why a freebie +2 to AC over the levels is seemingly required vs the other saves. Maybe to balance the iron will style feats?

 

[Brian Gibbons]

While most of the level 6/11/16/21/26 weapons do decrease crits as a trade-off, there are a few that do not.

The dynamic weapon (change shape into the weapon of your choice) and sacrificial weapon (daily power to spend a healing surge as a free action to leave your target weakened for a round) have all of the benefits of a basic magic weapon weapon plus more, at the same price.

 

[JiffyPopTart]

Distance weapons deal no additional damage on a crit.

Critting with a +1 dagger: 1d6 + 5 + other damage bonuses.
Critting with a +1 distance dagger: 5 + other damage bonuses.

I definately overlooked that little snippet. That at least makes it defendable.

I still don't like the idea of ANY propertied weapon or armor being LVL1.

DS

 

[keterys]

I still don't like the idea of ANY propertied weapon or armor being LVL1

What about level 6?

I actually don't like non-properties weapons/armor at all. I'd just as soon that everything past basic +1 ones had properties

 

[burntgerbil]

seconded. a plus 6 longsword is not as cool (to most people) as a +5 vorpal.

 

[mattdm]

I actually don't like non-properties weapons/armor at all. I'd just as soon that everything past basic +1 ones had properties

Yeah. In my game, if the players want to enchant that boring stuff for themselves, okay. But all the treasure they're going to find at 6/11/16 etc. is just going to happen to be wondrous items and other things not bound by this pattern.

 

[Gort]

Yeah. In my game, if the players want to enchant that boring stuff for themselves, okay. But all the treasure they're going to find at 6/11/16 etc. is just going to happen to be wondrous items and other things not bound by this pattern.

Yeah, this is my exact philosophy. I'd far rather everyone was running around with flaming swords than just "generically better sword +2".

 

[Phoenix8008]

Slightly off topic, but can anybody with the Adventurers Vault book tell me if there is a Githyanki Silver sword in it? Don't have the book yet but my Githyanki PC would love to know...