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Message: <blockquote data-quote="babomb" data-source="post: 223885" data-attributes="member: 1316">I'd like to tell you to stick to your guns, but I don't know if that's going to work very well. Some people would be okay with it, some would just not play, and some would play but resent it.So try to compromise.I think the best thing to do first is to ask him about the ranger/cleric option you mentioned.If he doesn't agree to that, don't sacrifice the integrity of your world, but try to throw him a bone. Making some sort of consolation shows him that it's nothing personal (some people think that, even if you have the guidelines for everyone) and that you're doing the best you can to let him play what he wants. The problem is where to throw him a bone:(1)I don't know why (specifically) you don't have Druids and Barbarians, but I'm sure there's a good reason in your setting.(2)The multiclassing rule is reasonable enough.(3)The fact that orcs are killed on sight is not unusual by any means, is plausable, realistic, and part of your world's integrity.(4)Sacrificing your world's integrity is not an option, in my opinion.(5)If he doesn't like what his character is, he may be bored or angry. In my group, one player got angry and stormed out of the room -- more than once -- because his psion had switched bodies with the fighter, and he hated playing the fighter. I think he rather overreacted, but you never know how other people think.Without knowing much detail, all I can come up with if he doesn't like the ranger/cleric are:(1) Is it possible you could let him play a barbarian/ranger? You may have to change something, but maybe you could make that change into a plot hook of some sort. I don't know anything about your world, but I would think that barbarians would be easier to work in than druids. Of course, barbarian/ranger might be really off from what he wants; I don't know. Of course if one of the other players had wanted to play a restricted class before, they might accuse you of favoritism.(2) If he finds some other combination of classes that suits him well enough and requires more than two classes, cut him some slack.(3) Offer to swap out a few abilities or give him a magic item that grants an ability he wants (such as a sword that lets him rage).(4) Learn to cast suggestion for real and tell him that he really wants to play a ranger/cleric.</blockquote>

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