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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 9466444" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>So armor of agathys is an interesting spell. It's both offence and defense in one, so it can't be too good at either or it's overpowered. It's always been best when comboed with something else which allows you to "stretch" the spell, to inflict more damage with it - have the spell "fire" several times, in other words. For example one of my players had a warlock 5/fighter 3 and would use the parry maneuver to preserve the AA's temp hp so he could inflict the AA's damage repeatedly (it worked well!). But that was about all you could do - the temp hp of AA couldn't be recharged.</p><p></p><p>But the rules for AA have changed!</p><p></p><p>From: "If a creature hits you with a melee attack while you have<strong> these hit points</strong>, the creature takes 5 cold damage."</p><p></p><p>to the new 2024: "If a creature hits you with a melee attack roll before the spell ends, the creature takes 5 Cold damage. The spell ends early if you have no Temporary Hit Points."</p><p></p><p>So, based on the reading of the new spell, especially when combined with reading the old spell, it seems you can now recharge the AA's temp HP! And 2024 has plenty of potent ways to do that.</p><p></p><p>I thus prevent my first ever (I think?) OP combo, certainly my first one for 5e. I'm pretty proud of this one. </p><p></p><p>If you are a high level warlock, you could upcast AA with a 5th level slots (edited for clarity), and then use a number of means to keep it topped up. But the <em>real</em> wonbo combo is taking magical secrets as a bard to take both AA and Shapechange - shapechange has also been changed and now gives you a ton of temp HP. So go ahead and change into a dragon/giant/you get the picture, rampage around! Anyone who dares hit you will take 25 cold damage. When your temp HP are running low, just bamf into a new form and voila, more temp HP!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 9466444, member: 23"] So armor of agathys is an interesting spell. It's both offence and defense in one, so it can't be too good at either or it's overpowered. It's always been best when comboed with something else which allows you to "stretch" the spell, to inflict more damage with it - have the spell "fire" several times, in other words. For example one of my players had a warlock 5/fighter 3 and would use the parry maneuver to preserve the AA's temp hp so he could inflict the AA's damage repeatedly (it worked well!). But that was about all you could do - the temp hp of AA couldn't be recharged. But the rules for AA have changed! From: "If a creature hits you with a melee attack while you have[B] these hit points[/B], the creature takes 5 cold damage." to the new 2024: "If a creature hits you with a melee attack roll before the spell ends, the creature takes 5 Cold damage. The spell ends early if you have no Temporary Hit Points." So, based on the reading of the new spell, especially when combined with reading the old spell, it seems you can now recharge the AA's temp HP! And 2024 has plenty of potent ways to do that. I thus prevent my first ever (I think?) OP combo, certainly my first one for 5e. I'm pretty proud of this one. If you are a high level warlock, you could upcast AA with a 5th level slots (edited for clarity), and then use a number of means to keep it topped up. But the [I]real[/I] wonbo combo is taking magical secrets as a bard to take both AA and Shapechange - shapechange has also been changed and now gives you a ton of temp HP. So go ahead and change into a dragon/giant/you get the picture, rampage around! Anyone who dares hit you will take 25 cold damage. When your temp HP are running low, just bamf into a new form and voila, more temp HP! [/QUOTE]
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