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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasin" data-source="post: 3399502" data-attributes="member: 7531">Or, they could just take TWF and not take Agile Shield Fighter.TWF is for Dex 19 whirlwind o' death ninja types.Agile Shield Fighters is for Dex 8 paladins who just want to smack someone in the face with a shield. It doesn't require as much finesse (luckily, since the paladin hardly has any) but it doesn't have as much room for improvement as the regular TWF path.If you want to double your attacks, you take TWF (and beyond). If you want to tank out in full plate and heavy shield, dump your Dex, but still get that one extra attack with the shield, you take ASF. Both feats have their use, even without stacking them.How about adding a line to ASF that says "You cannot simultaneously benefit from Agile Shield Fighter and Two-Weapon Fighting." Elegant enough?Oh, I do have an interest in discussing rules, but if the intent behind the rules is obvious, and going by the letter rather than the intent causes problems, I think the solution of going by the intent is so trivial as to be uninteresting.</blockquote>