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<blockquote data-quote="Art Waring" data-source="post: 9292262" data-attributes="member: 7037141"><p>Opt-out options are a cop out, allowing companies to deflect blame to artists. If they were actually interested in treating artists fairly it would be an opt-in system. Furthermore, tons of companies offer opt-out options that are never enforced. There is currently no law forcing companies to enforce opt-out lists, and they are free to ignore them at their convenience. As a traditional artist, opt-out only is not a valid solution. Period.</p><p></p><p>Not to mention, that the opt-out option completely ignores the issue of scraping and using personal data without consent. For the one company that does use opting-out, there are thousands of companies that ignore the issue completely. Until this is regulated across the entire industry, opting-out is next to useless.</p><p></p><p><u>Oh, and about Adobe. They claim they have 100% gotten consent to train their models, but many artists are saying that this is a blatant lie. </u></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90831386/artists-accuse-adobe-tracking-design-ai" target="_blank">Article: Artists accuse Adobe of tracking their design process to power its ai.</a></p><p></p><p>quoted from the article:</p><p></p><p></p><p>More:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://venturebeat.com/ai/adobe-stock-creators-arent-happy-with-firefly-the-companys-commercially-safe-gen-ai-tool/" target="_blank">Another article listed here where stock art creators are interviewed, saying Adobe did not get their permission</a>:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is still a very, very long way to go towards making ethically-sourced training models for generative ai. Your attempts to steer the narrative away from this are also an attempt to sweep the damage dealt to artists under the rug while you champion ai as the next best thing since sliced bread.</p><p></p><p>Adobe's stock made significant gains following the announcement of Firefly, I wonder why. </p><p></p><p>Simultaneously they are stealing your artistic process in real time.</p><p></p><p>This goes beyond just scraping data, Adobe is also training directly on your creative process without telling you. This is beyond vile in every way I can imagine. The only way to protect yourself as an artist is simply to NOT USE THE TOOLS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Art Waring, post: 9292262, member: 7037141"] Opt-out options are a cop out, allowing companies to deflect blame to artists. If they were actually interested in treating artists fairly it would be an opt-in system. Furthermore, tons of companies offer opt-out options that are never enforced. There is currently no law forcing companies to enforce opt-out lists, and they are free to ignore them at their convenience. As a traditional artist, opt-out only is not a valid solution. Period. Not to mention, that the opt-out option completely ignores the issue of scraping and using personal data without consent. For the one company that does use opting-out, there are thousands of companies that ignore the issue completely. Until this is regulated across the entire industry, opting-out is next to useless. [U]Oh, and about Adobe. They claim they have 100% gotten consent to train their models, but many artists are saying that this is a blatant lie. [/U] [URL='https://www.fastcompany.com/90831386/artists-accuse-adobe-tracking-design-ai']Article: Artists accuse Adobe of tracking their design process to power its ai.[/URL] quoted from the article: More: [URL='https://venturebeat.com/ai/adobe-stock-creators-arent-happy-with-firefly-the-companys-commercially-safe-gen-ai-tool/']Another article listed here where stock art creators are interviewed, saying Adobe did not get their permission[/URL]: There is still a very, very long way to go towards making ethically-sourced training models for generative ai. Your attempts to steer the narrative away from this are also an attempt to sweep the damage dealt to artists under the rug while you champion ai as the next best thing since sliced bread. Adobe's stock made significant gains following the announcement of Firefly, I wonder why. Simultaneously they are stealing your artistic process in real time. This goes beyond just scraping data, Adobe is also training directly on your creative process without telling you. This is beyond vile in every way I can imagine. The only way to protect yourself as an artist is simply to NOT USE THE TOOLS. [/QUOTE]
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