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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9296804" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Okay. I'm not arguing against laws like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO. Referencing it in the prompt makes it easier to recognize that it's producing copyrighted works because we have a good idea of what source material to check.</p><p>1. What makes you think it's ability to reproduce bits of copyrighted works ends at referencing one in the prompt?</p><p>2. Derivative works are still copyright infringement.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So the problem may be that I'm not trying to determine if the model is illegal. When I say 'look at the output', it's not to determine that the model itself is illegal.</p><p></p><p>Here's the deal. At the end of the day it could easily be ruled that all AI models are legal (a kind of fair use for making one) and yet still have copyright litigation against anyone that uses them to produce copyrighted material. Saying the model is legal in this instance doesn't say anything about the legal risk of using it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>All of them do prompt interpretation. Some are better at it than others.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you are mistaken because I'm not trying to define the legality of the model.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The odds of you drawing something by pencil that would infringe Elsa's copyright inadvertently are virtually zero. If a lawsuit is brought against you and that's your defense then you are going to lose.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Copyright violation isn't a penal offense. Intent is not required. </p><p></p><p></p><p>At some point it will be widely known that generative AI is prone to such 'errors'. After that, choosing to use it anyways and then trying to hide behind 'i didn't know it produced a copyrighted image' isn't going to work very well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I suggest you look into the MCDs coffee case sometime. It's not at all what you think.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Private use isn't necessarily a protected or fair use case either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9296804, member: 6795602"] Okay. I'm not arguing against laws like that. IMO. Referencing it in the prompt makes it easier to recognize that it's producing copyrighted works because we have a good idea of what source material to check. 1. What makes you think it's ability to reproduce bits of copyrighted works ends at referencing one in the prompt? 2. Derivative works are still copyright infringement. So the problem may be that I'm not trying to determine if the model is illegal. When I say 'look at the output', it's not to determine that the model itself is illegal. Here's the deal. At the end of the day it could easily be ruled that all AI models are legal (a kind of fair use for making one) and yet still have copyright litigation against anyone that uses them to produce copyrighted material. Saying the model is legal in this instance doesn't say anything about the legal risk of using it. All of them do prompt interpretation. Some are better at it than others. Again, you are mistaken because I'm not trying to define the legality of the model. The odds of you drawing something by pencil that would infringe Elsa's copyright inadvertently are virtually zero. If a lawsuit is brought against you and that's your defense then you are going to lose. Copyright violation isn't a penal offense. Intent is not required. At some point it will be widely known that generative AI is prone to such 'errors'. After that, choosing to use it anyways and then trying to hide behind 'i didn't know it produced a copyrighted image' isn't going to work very well. I suggest you look into the MCDs coffee case sometime. It's not at all what you think. Private use isn't necessarily a protected or fair use case either. [/QUOTE]
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