Alien races: The Bizzarre form VS the vaguely humanoid form

Well not all of the aliens in Lovecraft's world are completely unusable. Right off I can say Mi-Go can be a usable idea for a space opera game. I wouldn't go too far off the deep end though. Maybe offer up one or two of each types as options.

1-2 humanoid

1-2 animal like

1-2 completely alien

Dragonstar had a good premise for their races and offered completely alien races that still had playable appeal.
 

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You know, it's interesting, as I read this thread I'm reminded of the star trek movie "The Undiscovered Country," where the Klingons get into a debate with Kirk and Bones and crew about Human perception of race, and racist language which permeates the human vocabulary, when applied to non-humans ("inalienable humans rights, etc..).

If, say, a klingon were reading this thread, he/she might find it very insulting!

And he, like me, might prefer another term for "human" or "person" in discussions like this; my personal favorite is "Sophont" (see Sentience, Sapience, Sophonce )
 

Well not all of the aliens in Lovecraft's world are completely unusable. Right off I can say Mi-Go can be a usable idea for a space opera game. I wouldn't go too far off the deep end though. Maybe offer up one or two of each types as options.

1-2 humanoid

1-2 animal like

1-2 completely alien

Dragonstar had a good premise for their races and offered completely alien races that still had playable appeal.

Dragonstar's a pretty cool setting.

Awhile back, I had contacted FFG about maybe picking up a license to publish material for the setting. It was around the time of Origins, though, so everyone was busy.

I may have to contact them again.
 

I, too, like Dragonstar for its aliens. Don't forget Dark Matter, Stardrive, Alternity and so forth. Some good stuff in there.

FWIW, I also use some classic D&D monsters for aliens as well. Are Illithids, Beholders and Aboleths any less suited for a sci-fi game because they originated in a classic FRPG? I don't think so.

Another person told of how a Giant Octopus about 6' in diameter actually grabbed one of his coworkers and tried to drag her into its tank. It used 3 tentacles to anchor itself into its tank and the other 5 to wrangle her towards the water. It took several people to fend off the attack.

Just a thought- that story really puts a different perspective on that Capital One squid commercial (and the Vernian story it spoofs).
 

Cephalopods are cool

Cool beans, and the last part is pretty dang scary. I've seen footage of an octopus playing with a deep sea diver. The octopus would curl its tentacles up like a frisbee, the diver would then take it and throw it (in the water, of course). It would stop spinning, swim back to the diver and curl up again.

Ever see The Future is Wild? Not the cartoon, but the miniseries abotu the "What if Humans dissapeared? What would life be like in 10 million years, 100 million years, etc. Their hypothetical evolution model led to cephelapods becoming the next possible intelligent species, filling the same niche as early humans (living in trees, working together for protection, using tools, etc).
 

Cool beans, and the last part is pretty dang scary. I've seen footage of an octopus playing with a deep sea diver. The octopus would curl its tentacles up like a frisbee, the diver would then take it and throw it (in the water, of course). It would stop spinning, swim back to the diver and curl up again.

Oh yeah- they definitely have a sense of play...though it may not be the same as ours.

That reminds me, there is a nice intelligent cephalopod in Alan Dean Foster's "Taken" trilogy (Lost and Found, Light Years Beneath My Feet, The Candle of Distant Earth).

Sque is a hyperintelligent, elitist, xenophobic know-it-all, a pain in the behind, and ultimately, a great companion.

The books are a nice, light comedic space opera series, sort of a slightly less whacky Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Ever see The Future is Wild? Not the cartoon, but the miniseries abotu the "What if Humans dissapeared? What would life be like in 10 million years, 100 million years, etc. Their hypothetical evolution model led to cephelapods becoming the next possible intelligent species, filling the same niche as early humans (living in trees, working together for protection, using tools, etc).
No, I keep missing that one! I've seen only a couple of clips.
 
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Dragonstar's a pretty cool setting.

Awhile back, I had contacted FFG about maybe picking up a license to publish material for the setting. It was around the time of Origins, though, so everyone was busy.

I may have to contact them again.


OH MAN! Dragonstar! I loved that Campaign setting!
We had a blast playing it and were sorry to see it "go away".
If you could get it and do a True20 version that would Rock!
Bill
 

You could just make something up. It's not like you can be wrong.


When designing aliens I like to start by working out what their pre-sentient ancestors were like and extrapolating from there. Consider how they got food, avoided predators, etc and build that into their instincts and behaviors in the present day setting.

David Brin's Uplift books had a major influence on me vis a vis thinking about aliens. This got even stronger when I stumbled over a copy of the GURPS supplement for that setting. The chapter on alien design is one of the best resources I've ever seen, and I still use it for inspiration today, even for non-GURPS writing.
 

It was posted in an earlier post that competition and predator/prey relationships would happen in any type of system (environment, planet, etc.) and regardless of type of creatures (carbon based, silicon based, etc.). I would add that sentience is probably not even possible without competition. Of all of the intelligent species of the planet, it seems every single one is a predator. The indicators we use, communication, cooperative interaction, and "play" are all traits of predators.

On the subject of sentience, I don't think sentience is necessarily some threshold a creature has to achieve in order to be "intelligent". I think sentience is more of a range or spectrum. Just because we consider ourselves sentient doesn't mean we are necessarily the only aware species on the planet, or even the most aware species on the planet let alone in the universe.

There are many other species that would have a shot at achieving the level of awareness that we do, if nature and humanity give them the chance. Whether or not a species achieves our level of sentience is affected by a lot more than just the potential to achieve it. Some very specific things had to happen for mankind to achieve supremacy and the level of sentience we enjoy. Remove any one of those occurances and we could just as likely still be primative primates. In that situation there could just as likely have been another intelligent species gaining dominance and sentience, as there could be no sentient or dominant species. Intelligent species could be as much a product of chance as a product of competitive evolution.

Bringing this all back to the subject, intelligent alien races, regardless of form, would probably all have predatory origins. So, manipulation of their environment would be a must (whether hands, tentacles, telepathy, etc.). They would have to be able to "hunt".

Personally, I'd go with the cephalopods as the next best chance of a sentient creature also. I don't think their behaviors are any more sentient than other candidates (whales, dolphins, etc.) but just based on ability to manipulate their environment, I think cephalopods have the advantage. Although you can't rule out insects either.

Insects may have a leg up also (or legs up;)). The hive mind concept could be one where collective intelligence finally reaches a point of critical mass, and tips over into a level of awareness comparable to ours. I like Mustrum Ridcullys reference to The Swarm, with the idea of bacteria achieving a sentient hive mind. The Borg in Star Trek are a good example, as are the Klicks in Star*Drive. A drone may not be very sentient on it's own, but the queen or a central/combined hive mind would be.
 

Of all of the intelligent species of the planet, it seems every single one is a predator. The indicators we use, communication, cooperative interaction, and "play" are all traits of predators.

Besides great apes, cetaceans and cephalopods, there are other species that are having their intelligence re-evaluated. (I don't recall, however, how many species have posted interesting results when given the mirror test.)

There is growing evidence of the intelligence of pigs and horses, and some dogs are considered to be as smart as young humans. African Grey Parrots are also noted for being particularly smart...especially the one in It Waits.

That bird was smarter than any of the humans in the film, and had the best line- "Uh Oh!" whenever the monster was nearby. Despite having a mobile, intelligent "monster detector" around, the humans kept trying to set it free so it could get away and save itself...

Remind me how we've risen to dominate the planet again?
 

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