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<blockquote data-quote="dkyle" data-source="post: 5850757" data-attributes="member: 70707">It's ultimately a spectrum.&nbsp; I don't see much point driving a real distinction between Lawful vs. Neutral or Neutral vs. Chaotic.&nbsp; Neutral is just someone that's closer to the middle than to either extreme.I disagree that Chaotic is necessarily the &quot;self interested&quot; alignment.&nbsp; Robin Hood would clearly be Chaotic, as would V (as in, &quot;for Vendetta&quot;).&nbsp; But they both have goals clearly oriented towards others.Not at all.First, a character that decides that laws are unjust on &quot;whims&quot; is clearly not Lawful.&nbsp; They are Chaotic.&nbsp; They do not respect the law.&nbsp; Of course, any character might believe themselves to be Lawful, but I think an honest player would understand whether their character is truly Lawful or not.&nbsp; Alignment should be a roleplaying aid; whether the player uses it is up to them.But even with Chaotic characters, the laws still matter, as long as the authorities that established them have the power to enforce them.&nbsp; A Chaotic character that isn't insane or utterly self-destructive is likely to think twice about disobeying a law if he thinks he's certain to be killed over it.A character certainly could call himself something he is plainly not.&nbsp; Is that a problem?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dkyle, post: 5850757, member: 70707"] It's ultimately a spectrum. I don't see much point driving a real distinction between Lawful vs. Neutral or Neutral vs. Chaotic. Neutral is just someone that's closer to the middle than to either extreme. I disagree that Chaotic is necessarily the "self interested" alignment. Robin Hood would clearly be Chaotic, as would V (as in, "for Vendetta"). But they both have goals clearly oriented towards others. Not at all. First, a character that decides that laws are unjust on "whims" is clearly not Lawful. They are Chaotic. They do not respect the law. Of course, any character might believe themselves to be Lawful, but I think an honest player would understand whether their character is truly Lawful or not. Alignment should be a roleplaying aid; whether the player [i]uses[/i] it is up to them. But even with Chaotic characters, the laws still matter, as long as the authorities that established them have the power to enforce them. A Chaotic character that isn't insane or utterly self-destructive is likely to think twice about disobeying a law if he thinks he's certain to be killed over it. A character certainly could call himself something he is plainly not. Is that a problem? [/QUOTE]

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