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<blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 6197642" data-attributes="member: 2303">I am just trying to penetrate the concept, self-cultivation obviously means more to you than the words imply. So I am looking for a definition by presenting absurd examples that might help me find out what you may mean by self-cultivation by providing examples of what it is not.In Swedish we have a concept of &quot;cultivating your garden&quot; than seems to be much the same, but which is more about self-realization and thus to my mind chaotic. In fact, most philosophical pursuits seem chaotic to me - you are consciously avoiding following in others' footprints and trying to form an independent opinion. Even if that opinion is partially based on older authorities and the content of your newly-formed opinion can be lawful in the extreme, I still see the process of free thought itself as chaotic. Of course, this meshes with my view that law and chaos are methods and vehicles that can ideally be used to reach a greater degree of enlightenment and goodness, vehicles that should never be seen as goals in themselves. Yes, I see myself as striving to be NG in DnD terms.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Starfox, post: 6197642, member: 2303"] I am just trying to penetrate the concept, self-cultivation obviously means more to you than the words imply. So I am looking for a definition by presenting absurd examples that might help me find out what you may mean by self-cultivation by providing examples of what it is not. In Swedish we have a concept of "cultivating your garden" than seems to be much the same, but which is more about self-realization and thus to my mind chaotic. In fact, most philosophical pursuits seem chaotic to me - you are consciously avoiding following in others' footprints and trying to form an independent opinion. Even if that opinion is partially based on older authorities and the content of your newly-formed opinion can be lawful in the extreme, I still see the process of free thought itself as chaotic. Of course, this meshes with my view that law and chaos are methods and vehicles that can ideally be used to reach a greater degree of enlightenment and goodness, vehicles that should never be seen as goals in themselves. Yes, I see myself as striving to be NG in DnD terms. [/QUOTE]

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