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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 6198053" data-attributes="member: 1879">I personally have never seen any sort of definition set of objective good which was not anthropocentric. I am not widely read in contemporary philosophy so perhaps I simply missed the current thinking. And honestly it's not much of a problem because in reality we are the only language using species we have yet encountered so there is no one to argue with our anthropocentrism. In D&amp;D however you have scads of different intelligent species with quite radically different needs and drives and it seems to me that this must quite explode the entire concept of obective value. Certainly where good is concerned. Even something as apparently universally good as a simple healing spell can be readily demonstrated to be &quot;not good&quot; as it would harm a Xeg-yi, an intelligent non-evil creature, thus being harmful to something which does not oppose good.What common good will be found for fire and ice elementals? Or for the Thri-Kreen and the Lizardmen, who require desert and swamp, respectively? Does a being like a Demon which is &quot;Always Evil&quot; have free will if he cannot choose to do good? And if he does not, how can he be evil, without choice?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andor, post: 6198053, member: 1879"] I personally have never seen any sort of definition set of objective good which was not anthropocentric. I am not widely read in contemporary philosophy so perhaps I simply missed the current thinking. And honestly it's not much of a problem because in reality we are the only language using species we have yet encountered so there is no one to argue with our anthropocentrism. In D&D however you have scads of different intelligent species with quite radically different needs and drives and it seems to me that this must quite explode the entire concept of obective value. Certainly where good is concerned. Even something as apparently universally good as a simple healing spell can be readily demonstrated to be "not good" as it would harm a Xeg-yi, an intelligent non-evil creature, thus being harmful to something which does not oppose good. What common good will be found for fire and ice elementals? Or for the Thri-Kreen and the Lizardmen, who require desert and swamp, respectively? Does a being like a Demon which is "Always Evil" have free will if he cannot choose to do good? And if he does not, how can he be evil, without choice? [/QUOTE]

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