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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 6198685" data-attributes="member: 2303">I see where you are coming with this from the earlier argument here, and respect that conclusion. I don't share it. But then, the conclusion of this discussion seems to be that there is no point of agreement about alignment on the law-chaos scale.I have no problems with paladins as conformists, moderated by their desire for an overreaching greater good.I always thought the idea of the monk as being lawful was kind of silly. Especially if you consider the "Chinese knight" and shaolin to be the models of a monk. Shaolin were persecuted for much of their history. And many martial arts styles began as tools of rebellion - Capoeira and Karate to mention two. I think the idea of monks being lawful comes from the general perception of classical Chinese morals all being lawful - which is an oversimplification.</blockquote>