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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4098917" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Before people go off the handle about combat manuevers in 3e, remember we already know that 4e characters can do bullrushes and grabs.</p><p></p><p>We've heard rumors that trip will be a power now, so its still in. And we haven't heard about disarm yet.</p><p></p><p>So there will still be things to do other than using your powers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the "why should the at will power be the standard attack" question, this is actually a very intelligent design move by WOTC.</p><p></p><p>In 4e, you get one swing, but that one swing increases in damage more than the one swing in 3e (especially with powers). However the problem comes with AOOs. AOOs literally give you twice the attacks per round, which is a huge increase in power.</p><p></p><p>However, with the advantage of powers, this is negated somewhat. Since you can't use a power on an AOO, an AOO now becomes a weakened form of attack, allowing the mechanic without causing a 100% increase in attack power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 4098917, member: 5889"] Before people go off the handle about combat manuevers in 3e, remember we already know that 4e characters can do bullrushes and grabs. We've heard rumors that trip will be a power now, so its still in. And we haven't heard about disarm yet. So there will still be things to do other than using your powers. As for the "why should the at will power be the standard attack" question, this is actually a very intelligent design move by WOTC. In 4e, you get one swing, but that one swing increases in damage more than the one swing in 3e (especially with powers). However the problem comes with AOOs. AOOs literally give you twice the attacks per round, which is a huge increase in power. However, with the advantage of powers, this is negated somewhat. Since you can't use a power on an AOO, an AOO now becomes a weakened form of attack, allowing the mechanic without causing a 100% increase in attack power. [/QUOTE]
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