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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ulthwithian" data-source="post: 4099144" data-attributes="member: 60612">That depends entirely on what you read.  If you go back to the touchstones, then Gandalf (e.g.) certainly didn't worry about 'recharging' his spells.  That was not the limiter.  If you go by contemporary fantasy, then you have a circular argument.  Most contemporary fantasy has as its 'baseline' D&D game-workings, in some form.  In magical terms, Vancian magic.  To argue that 4E is not abiding by fantasy tropes because those tropes are based on something that 4E is moving away from is a valid argument, but it cannot support itself.I'll also note that those books which are clearly not based on D&D but upon another system (e.g., the Earthdawn novels) don't have this problem.</blockquote>