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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 21218" data-attributes="member: 2167">To Darklone"Dual Weapon Technique: If the Rogue has a Base Attack Bonus of +4 or higher as well as having 6 ranks or more in Balance and a Dexterity score of at least 14, and when wearing light or no armor, they may fight with two weapons as if they had the feats Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting. This bonus is not gained when a Rogue is penalized their dexterity modifier, when they wear medium or heavy armor, or when they wield a double weapon. "This is based on the Ranger ability - obviously, but it has the prerequisite of not being able to be used until the Rogue has sufficient combat experience (BAB +4 and Balance 6+) as well as being restricted only to Rogues with a Dex 14+.   This at least limits the options as to what Rogues will use this ability.  Also in my thinking, it makes more sense for a Rogue to be a dual wielder (classically seen as two weapon fighters) than a Ranger who is moer classically seen as a woodsman and archer.  Also note that they are restricted by their weapon selection as to what weapons they can utilize in dual weapon technicque."Rogues are proficient in all simple weapons, as well as being able to choose proficiency in 2 of the following weapons: Hand Crossbow, Rapier, Sap, Short Bow, or Short Sword. "Granted if the Rogue has some levels of a warrior class, then they may use a wider range of martial weapons - however, it is then justified that the Fighter/Rogue is better at wielding bigger weapons than a pure Rogue.Make sense?As for other classes, I have posted an Alternate Bard built in the same manner, but altering it to be more what we (co-author and I) felt to be our vision of what a Bard should be.I am toying with some other ideas, but for now I wanted to bring the Bard into line powerwise with the other classes, and the Rogue I wanted to be more versatile. Not all Rogues are backstabing thieves.</blockquote>

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