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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 21378" data-attributes="member: 78">I think low level rogues lose quite a bit with this variant.&nbsp; Over his first 3 levels, a rogue gets 2 sneak attack dice, traps, Uncanny dodge 1, and evasion.&nbsp; Your variant can't get all that until level 5, at which point he is still one ability behind.&nbsp; In fact, your rogue has one ability less than the PHB one.&nbsp; Did you forget one because Traps is a rogue ability that doesn't show on the advancement chart?Also, multiclassing might be a problem.&nbsp; Because of their large amount of skill points, Rogues are already an attractive multiclass option.&nbsp; Your variant makes them even more attractive.&nbsp; A fighter rogue could take sneak powers more quickly and easily than a normal rogue.&nbsp; Characters that want feats would pick up some rogue levels, getting both rapid skill and feat advancement.Finally, I don't like the requirements for many abilites.&nbsp; For example, I don't understand the relation between combat training against multiple opponents and Sense Motive.&nbsp; I think you'd be better off requiring a certain rogue level for many abilties rather than generic requirements.&nbsp; These are rogue only powers, not feats for anyone to take.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 21378, member: 78"] I think low level rogues lose quite a bit with this variant. Over his first 3 levels, a rogue gets 2 sneak attack dice, traps, Uncanny dodge 1, and evasion. Your variant can't get all that until level 5, at which point he is still one ability behind. In fact, your rogue has one ability less than the PHB one. Did you forget one because Traps is a rogue ability that doesn't show on the advancement chart? Also, multiclassing might be a problem. Because of their large amount of skill points, Rogues are already an attractive multiclass option. Your variant makes them even more attractive. A fighter rogue could take sneak powers more quickly and easily than a normal rogue. Characters that want feats would pick up some rogue levels, getting both rapid skill and feat advancement. Finally, I don't like the requirements for many abilites. For example, I don't understand the relation between combat training against multiple opponents and Sense Motive. I think you'd be better off requiring a certain rogue level for many abilties rather than generic requirements. These are rogue only powers, not feats for anyone to take. [/QUOTE]

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