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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Panda-s1" data-source="post: 7904501" data-attributes="member: 59554">4e is the game I ran the most, but didn't play as much myself. even though now I don't appreciate some parts of it, I did enjoy it for what it was and still would rather play it over 3.5. actually I'd play AD&D over 3.5, so...I'm still not over backlash that happened 12 years ago though, and it didn't help that I worked at a game store at the time. thankfully the owner was cool with 4e, as were a few other noteworthy patrons, but it's pretty disheartening to see a bunch of 30+ year olds act like they're 12 over a game they don't have to play. also still not over some of the arguments, like is it really like World of Warcraft? really? I didn't play MMO's at the time so it was easy to dismiss this. I do play one MMO now, so I kinda get it, but it's still an incredibly different experience and I still find this argument dumb. also hated the argument that 4e wasn't good for roleplaying, like why do you need "mechanics" for better roleplaying? okay I don't want to go into a full on rant, just know that if you want to play 4e again, that's awesome. hell I bought all the Essentials books, but never got to play with them so I'm almost tempted to do the same lol(sidenote: very tangentially related, but was anyone else super excited for Pathfinder when they first released the Alpha only to be disappointed very quickly? for a hot minute it looked like my go to alternative if I decided I didn't like 4e, but I was immediately turned off by things like the sudden backlash and subsequent caving in about on/off skills because it was "too much like 4e", geez.)</blockquote>

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