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Am I crazy? I've just gotten a hankering to play 4e again...
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7905660" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Not 'version' - that's a whole 'nuther level of cynicism, where they just wanted you to re-buy all the same stuff, like 3.5, Essentials and, within Essentials, HotFL/K (here! have all the same rules twice! just with different classes! it's simpler!), and, well, every rev-roll, really, they backed off on trying to sell the Essentials Class Compendium which'd've just re-printed PH classes with lame sub-class names, though, so there are limits - but the next in the line, MM2, PH2, DMG2... because everything is core, so slice core up and parcel it out.</p><p></p><p> I can accept that. OTOH, I can also accept the 5e party line that the rules are a starting point, and each table will have it's own variants, (so why ever fix anything). Hm... is that a pattern?</p><p>That I can't get behind. ;P</p><p></p><p> Well, for a long while there was DDI. That consolidated just about everything. But it didn't fix up everything.</p><p></p><p>Part of the problem is that the high points didn't come at the same time. MM3 finally got monsters right, but PH3 & HotFL/K were off the peak when it came to classes - and feats just kept getting worse - the trendline with DMGs pointed to some future DMG3 or 4 being the high point, I think. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7905660, member: 996"] Not 'version' - that's a whole 'nuther level of cynicism, where they just wanted you to re-buy all the same stuff, like 3.5, Essentials and, within Essentials, HotFL/K (here! have all the same rules twice! just with different classes! it's simpler!), and, well, every rev-roll, really, they backed off on trying to sell the Essentials Class Compendium which'd've just re-printed PH classes with lame sub-class names, though, so there are limits - but the next in the line, MM2, PH2, DMG2... because everything is core, so slice core up and parcel it out. I can accept that. OTOH, I can also accept the 5e party line that the rules are a starting point, and each table will have it's own variants, (so why ever fix anything). Hm... is that a pattern? That I can't get behind. ;P Well, for a long while there was DDI. That consolidated just about everything. But it didn't fix up everything. Part of the problem is that the high points didn't come at the same time. MM3 finally got monsters right, but PH3 & HotFL/K were off the peak when it came to classes - and feats just kept getting worse - the trendline with DMGs pointed to some future DMG3 or 4 being the high point, I think. ;) [/QUOTE]
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