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Am I crazy? I've just gotten a hankering to play 4e again...
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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 7906685" data-attributes="member: 518"><p>I prefer Essentials for several reasons</p><p></p><p>I prefer some of the classes vs. the Core class counterparts (Slayer vs. Great Weapon Fighter in PHB for example)</p><p></p><p>I prefer the format- As I essentially (npi) run "Moldvay/Cook/Marsh" type S&S games when it comes to races/classes, Heroes of the Fallen Lands was the perfect fit. Hand it to the players and tell them to have at it with anything in this book. I also dig the reduced size with larger page count and easier to read presentation. And the art is generally an improvement in Essentials vs. earlier core products which is not a big deal, but..</p><p></p><p>If I run 4E BTB- the included counters in the boxed sets are a godsend as I don't do minis (but normally I run a very "13Th Aged" version of 4E suited for TotM)</p><p></p><p>That said, I can run a Core game and be fine with it as long as I update all the Math that came out around the MM3/Essentials release.</p><p></p><p>My favorites</p><p></p><p><strong><u>WOTC</u></strong></p><p>Heroes of the Fallen Lands</p><p>Dungeon Masters Guide (probably best DMG ever, for teaching someone how to be a DM- I've noticed the 5E DMG has stolen a fair amount of text from it)</p><p>DMG 2 (A seriously good toolbox plus Robin Laws(!), Companion Characters, Better treatment of Skill Challenges etc,)</p><p>DM'S Kit (repetitive of the DMG- BUT- fantastic adventure included)</p><p>Monster Vault (and another fun adventure)</p><p>Threats to the Nentir Vale</p><p>Hammerfast</p><p>Vor-Rukoth</p><p>Manual of the Planes</p><p>Open Grave</p><p>Mordenkainens Magnificent Emporium</p><p>Dungeon Delve (great for impromptu adventure/map/location needs)</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Goodman Games 4E adventures</strong></u></p><p>Isle of the Sea Drake</p><p>Punjar Trilogy</p><p>Forgotten Portal</p><p>Mists of Madness</p><p>In Search of Adventure (low level S&S mini adventures-easily hacked)</p><p></p><p>And anything Sasquatch did for Primeval Thule 4E.</p><p></p><p>Best thing I miss is the WOTC tools- Monster Builder and Character creator especially.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 7906685, member: 518"] I prefer Essentials for several reasons I prefer some of the classes vs. the Core class counterparts (Slayer vs. Great Weapon Fighter in PHB for example) I prefer the format- As I essentially (npi) run "Moldvay/Cook/Marsh" type S&S games when it comes to races/classes, Heroes of the Fallen Lands was the perfect fit. Hand it to the players and tell them to have at it with anything in this book. I also dig the reduced size with larger page count and easier to read presentation. And the art is generally an improvement in Essentials vs. earlier core products which is not a big deal, but.. If I run 4E BTB- the included counters in the boxed sets are a godsend as I don't do minis (but normally I run a very "13Th Aged" version of 4E suited for TotM) That said, I can run a Core game and be fine with it as long as I update all the Math that came out around the MM3/Essentials release. My favorites [B][U]WOTC[/U][/B] Heroes of the Fallen Lands Dungeon Masters Guide (probably best DMG ever, for teaching someone how to be a DM- I've noticed the 5E DMG has stolen a fair amount of text from it) DMG 2 (A seriously good toolbox plus Robin Laws(!), Companion Characters, Better treatment of Skill Challenges etc,) DM'S Kit (repetitive of the DMG- BUT- fantastic adventure included) Monster Vault (and another fun adventure) Threats to the Nentir Vale Hammerfast Vor-Rukoth Manual of the Planes Open Grave Mordenkainens Magnificent Emporium Dungeon Delve (great for impromptu adventure/map/location needs) [U][B]Goodman Games 4E adventures[/B][/U] Isle of the Sea Drake Punjar Trilogy Forgotten Portal Mists of Madness In Search of Adventure (low level S&S mini adventures-easily hacked) And anything Sasquatch did for Primeval Thule 4E. Best thing I miss is the WOTC tools- Monster Builder and Character creator especially. [/QUOTE]
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