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Am I crazy? I've just gotten a hankering to play 4e again...
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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 7907484" data-attributes="member: 518"><p>Frankly, I don't have much issue with the 4E MM when it comes to lore. I've been playing since 1977 and don't really need or want reams of lore about monsters I have been using for years and years. Just how much can be said about Goblins that is going to blow you away? The only time I like to see "extra" is when either </p><p></p><p>1) the Lore is there to tie the creature into a specific setting (for example the Jebli tribes of GH or see The Bestiary for Dragonlance 5th Age)</p><p></p><p> or</p><p></p><p>2) it's actually a different take on the creature from established norms (this usually the case in game other than D&D, for example Runequest or Earthdawn). </p><p></p><p>The Monster Vault, while excellent, I feel tips a bit too far in the opposite direction. There is so much word count given to lore, there are not nearly as many creatures in the book. </p><p></p><p>Also, I'd rather not have WOTC giving me their approved IP vanilla versions of anything at this point in my RPG life-The best campaign settings and monsters provide more questions than answers. </p><p></p><p>Swords & Wizardry way back in 2008 had the best treatment for my tastes when it comes to D&D monsters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 7907484, member: 518"] Frankly, I don't have much issue with the 4E MM when it comes to lore. I've been playing since 1977 and don't really need or want reams of lore about monsters I have been using for years and years. Just how much can be said about Goblins that is going to blow you away? The only time I like to see "extra" is when either 1) the Lore is there to tie the creature into a specific setting (for example the Jebli tribes of GH or see The Bestiary for Dragonlance 5th Age) or 2) it's actually a different take on the creature from established norms (this usually the case in game other than D&D, for example Runequest or Earthdawn). The Monster Vault, while excellent, I feel tips a bit too far in the opposite direction. There is so much word count given to lore, there are not nearly as many creatures in the book. Also, I'd rather not have WOTC giving me their approved IP vanilla versions of anything at this point in my RPG life-The best campaign settings and monsters provide more questions than answers. Swords & Wizardry way back in 2008 had the best treatment for my tastes when it comes to D&D monsters. [/QUOTE]
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