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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8262212" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Don’t be obtuse. No one is talking about dictating anything. +10 added to 0 doesn’t make disadvantage on stealth guy good at stealth. Good thing I didn’t say that. I indicated that the ranger has limited spell slots, fewer skills, especially in a game with a lot of traps and locks and such in which case rogue essentially has 5 skills, and the ranger has at most 1 skill expertise where the rogue has 4.The suggestion that the ranger makes the rogue look bad with Tasha’s options is absurd, which is the claim that started this argument.And if we are comparing rogue and ranger, we should be comparing scout or arcane trickster rogue. Scout has 2 extra skills both expertise, on top of everything else, and the arcane trickster has invisible mage hand and access to Wizard spells. If the rogue is feeling overshadowed by the ranger, something has gone wrong, and it isn’t the class design.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8262212, member: 6704184"] Don’t be obtuse. No one is talking about dictating anything. +10 added to 0 doesn’t make disadvantage on stealth guy good at stealth. Good thing I didn’t say that. I indicated that the ranger has limited spell slots, fewer skills, especially in a game with a lot of traps and locks and such in which case rogue essentially has 5 skills, and the ranger has at most 1 skill expertise where the rogue has 4. The suggestion that the ranger makes the rogue look bad with Tasha’s options is absurd, which is the claim that started this argument. And if we are comparing rogue and ranger, we should be comparing scout or arcane trickster rogue. Scout has 2 extra skills both expertise, on top of everything else, and the arcane trickster has invisible mage hand and access to Wizard spells. If the rogue is feeling overshadowed by the ranger, something has gone wrong, and it isn’t the class design. [/QUOTE]

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