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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 257884" data-attributes="member: 1645">And yet you list four...&quot;No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As coyote6 pointed out, a &quot;slam&quot; is any bludgeoning attack with a natural weapon.&nbsp; That said, it still makes little sense.&nbsp; If I want kung-fu vampires, I'll make up some kung-fu vampires.&nbsp; That shouldn't be the default.(Similarly, I don't like the idea of Zombies &quot;slamming&quot; either.&nbsp; I prefer that they grapple then rend or bite.&nbsp; Maybe I've just watched too many Romero movies...)And, I agree, I don't see why this should drain levels (or &quot;life force&quot; or whatever).&nbsp; Is there any vampire myth where they slap the life force out of their victims?I'm not too concerned about that, but, yeah, I think they should return more quickly than never.&nbsp; At least Restoration works. As I said before, I think making Vampire a class can solve some of those problems.&nbsp; I especially don't see the point in a static template for something you can advance in, and vampires seem to progress from weak spawn to more powerful vampires over time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 257884, member: 1645"] And yet you list four... "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" ;) As coyote6 pointed out, a "slam" is any bludgeoning attack with a natural weapon. That said, it still makes little sense. If I want kung-fu vampires, I'll make up some kung-fu vampires. That shouldn't be the default. (Similarly, I don't like the idea of Zombies "slamming" either. I prefer that they grapple then rend or bite. Maybe I've just watched too many Romero movies...) And, I agree, I don't see why this should drain levels (or "life force" or whatever). Is there [i]any[/i] vampire myth where they slap the life force out of their victims? I'm not too concerned about that, but, yeah, I think they should return more quickly than [i]never[/i]. At least Restoration works. As I said before, I think making Vampire a class can solve some of those problems. I especially don't see the point in a static template for something you can advance in, and vampires seem to progress from weak spawn to more powerful vampires over time. [/QUOTE]

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