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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 267661" data-attributes="member: 1645">Frankly, the Vampire Spawn looks damn tough for a 4th-level monster, and with a d12 Hit Die, lots of skills, and all sorts of powers, it's hard to come up with a reasonable 1st-level Vampire Spawn either.&nbsp; Let's take a quick stab at a class:Hit Die: d12Attack Bonus: as Wizard (1/2 level)Good Save: WillSkill Points: 8/levelSkill List: Bluff, Craft, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot.So far, it looks like a Rogue with twice the normal hit points, a weaker attack bonus, and a limited skill list (but lots of skill points).If we look at the powers of a 4th-level Vampire Spawn, we should be able to find a subset for a 1st- through 3rd-level Vampire Spawn.1st LevelUndeadBlood DrainEnergy DrainFast Healing 1DR 5/silverCold &amp; Electricity Resistance 52nd LevelSpider Climb+1 Natural ArmorFast Healing 2DR 10/silverCold &amp; Electricity Resistance 103rd LevelCharm+2 Natural ArmorFast Healing 24th LevelGaseous Form+3 Natural Armor+2 Turn ResistanceThat still looks pretty powerful, even without the Ability bonuses and the Feats (Alertness, Improved Initiative, Lightning Reflexes, Skill Focus).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 267661, member: 1645"] Frankly, the Vampire Spawn looks damn tough for a 4th-level monster, and with a d12 Hit Die, lots of skills, and all sorts of powers, it's hard to come up with a reasonable 1st-level Vampire Spawn either. Let's take a quick stab at a class: Hit Die: d12 Attack Bonus: as Wizard (1/2 level) Good Save: Will Skill Points: 8/level Skill List: Bluff, Craft, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot. So far, it looks like a Rogue with twice the normal hit points, a weaker attack bonus, and a limited skill list (but lots of skill points). If we look at the powers of a 4th-level Vampire Spawn, we should be able to find a subset for a 1st- through 3rd-level Vampire Spawn. [b]1st Level[/b] Undead Blood Drain Energy Drain Fast Healing 1 DR 5/silver Cold & Electricity Resistance 5 [b]2nd Level[/b] Spider Climb +1 Natural Armor Fast Healing 2 DR 10/silver Cold & Electricity Resistance 10 [b]3rd Level[/b] Charm +2 Natural Armor Fast Healing 2 [b]4th Level[/b] Gaseous Form +3 Natural Armor +2 Turn Resistance That still looks pretty powerful, even without the Ability bonuses and the Feats (Alertness, Improved Initiative, Lightning Reflexes, Skill Focus). [/QUOTE]

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