D&D 5E (2014) An attempt at a 5e Warlord

[DEFCON 1]

What, did that other Warlord project that everyone was working on together a couple weeks ago die off already?

 

[Garthanos]

What, did that other Warlord project that everyone was working on together a couple weeks ago die off already?

Which of the several... Warlord threads are rather common on here , There was recently One using Monks chassis one to use the Fighter foundation (with some versatility upgrades) primarily because people voted the fighter would be a good chassis, which in spite of me being skeptical I find myself coming back to.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

Lot's of solid work here. A few thoughts:

1. Symphony of Battle and Delegation are too close to each other given that the latter will often make the former irrelevant. Alternatively having the Delegation give some other boost under the equivalent circumstances as a) it is a level 20 ability so if it stacks to be a little OP it's not a huge issue, and b) whether it is ever useful is pretty play style and DM reading dependant.

2. Not to seriously criticize the style of what is clearly a provisional write-up, but I think Inspiration should be renamed, because it is already confusing having both DM granted Inspiration and Bardic Inspiration, and this feels underwhelming when there is a direct comparison to Bardic Inspiration. The "able to take advantage" in Symphony of battle is also problematic wording given that Advantage is a major term of art in the game.

3. I love having any use for mental stats other than magic and skill checks, so kudos to all the subclasses.

4. I get that it is a capital S support class, but it still has way more buff others and not yourself abilities than any other class. I'd make the Warlord themself a valid target/beneficiary for most the abilities. It supports solo and small group play and it also makes sense on many of the abilities that the Warlord would know how to apply their tactical brilliance to their own actions and draw on their strength of personality to overcome their own adversities. As is they are, when there are no allies it is useful to help, more or less a strictly inferior Fighter. Talk about rubbing salt in the wounds that day when none of the other players show up.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I like your foundations

The Tactical Warlord may still be my favorite because "reasons" and I have played it but I am fast itching to play a Bravura.

Then I'll take that as a huge compliment thank you

The Icon/Standard Bearer/Noble (heart aspect) aka Prince(ss) Build aka Lazylord will always have a fond place in my heart

I went out of my way to make the Lazylord viable - including if you push it all the way the inspiring lazylord being unarmoured and being even more of a force multiplier when they go down.

Bravura ideas.
Chieftains Warcry (inspires allies to Berserker frenzy)

Idea taken I'll probably update tomorrow.

Lot's of solid work here. A few thoughts:

1. Symphony of Battle and Delegation are too close to each other given that the latter will often make the former irrelevant. Alternatively having the Delegation give some other boost under the equivalent circumstances as a) it is a level 20 ability so if it stacks to be a little OP it's not a huge issue, and b) whether it is ever useful is pretty play style and DM reading dependant.

I was wondering about that and considering allowing Inspiration (or however it should be renamed) and possibly a subclass ability as well to be used under Delegation.

2. Not to seriously criticize the style of what is clearly a provisional write-up, but I think Inspiration should be renamed, because it is already confusing having both DM granted Inspiration and Bardic Inspiration,

A good point.

The "able to take advantage" in Symphony of battle is also problematic wording given that Advantage is a major term of art in the game.

Again a good point.

3. I love having any use for mental stats other than magic and skill checks, so kudos to all the subclasses.

Thanks.

4. I get that it is a capital S support class, but it still has way more buff others and not yourself abilities than any other class. I'd make the Warlord themself a valid target/beneficiary for most the abilities.

I actually thought that as I was writing, but always push the design in a first draft.

 

[Garthanos]

Bravura ideas.
Chieftains Warcry (inspires allies to Berserker frenzy)

One could give a General Warcry which allows the Warlord to Share his initiative value with allies who have a worse value.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I'm currently going with a warcry 1/long rest that for the next five minutes lets people gain advantage until the start of next turn on attack rolls at the cost of enemies attacking them also having advantage until the start of their next turn (may decide every turn).

 

[Garthanos]

I'm currently going with a warcry 1/long rest that for the next five minutes lets people gain advantage until the start of next turn on attack rolls at the cost of enemies attacking them also having advantage until the start of their next turn (may decide every turn).

In the Battlemaster Idea I was thinking of allowing a maneuver to share a maneuver you know as a meta-maneuver. So whatever style the Warlord has whether Bravura or whatever they inspire their allies in the fashion of what they do.

 

[Garthanos]

You havent updated your post?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

What, did that other Warlord project that everyone was working on together a couple weeks ago die off already?

If you mean my thread (the Marshal), I just updated it the other day, and I will be posting a new update with rough subclass drafts this week.

 

[Neonchameleon]

Updated with the Skald, and with giving all the subclasses a buff to Delegation.