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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3419340" data-attributes="member: 4937">Alot of my point is exploring the question of, &quot;Do better rules necessarily make for a better game?&quot;&nbsp; I think in theory that they can, but as I've been trying to show, better rules can have some unintended negative consequences depending on what you actually want from the game.No, its a AD&amp;D thing based on the chances of noticing the presence of an invisible creature.&nbsp; An owl or bat (with super-sensitive ears and used to hunting in total blindness) or a dog or wolf (with keen hearing and a sense of smell one thousand times keener than a humans), had according to the chart to determine if an invisible creature was detected by them a far less chance than a sickly nerd with a runny nose (because the table was primarily based on intelligence).&nbsp; To me, clearly this chart was intended for humanoids only, but invariably some PC would get all in my face because a dog was barking loudly while thier PC was sneaking around invisibly and demand that I follow that table.&nbsp; I really loathe rules lawyers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3419340, member: 4937"] Alot of my point is exploring the question of, "Do better rules necessarily make for a better game?" I think in theory that they can, but as I've been trying to show, better rules can have some unintended negative consequences depending on what you actually want from the game. No, its a AD&D thing based on the chances of noticing the presence of an invisible creature. An owl or bat (with super-sensitive ears and used to hunting in total blindness) or a dog or wolf (with keen hearing and a sense of smell one thousand times keener than a humans), had according to the chart to determine if an invisible creature was detected by them a far less chance than a sickly nerd with a runny nose (because the table was primarily based on intelligence). To me, clearly this chart was intended for humanoids only, but invariably some PC would get all in my face because a dog was barking loudly while thier PC was sneaking around invisibly and demand that I follow that table. I really loathe rules lawyers. [/QUOTE]

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