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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 3421325" data-attributes="member: 467">This is one I noticed when my regular 3.5 group met on Sunday for a long dungeon crawl session.&nbsp; I was aware of it, but as I am currently re-examining my 1E and 2E books, it really struck me.The PCs (5th level) ended up having to &quot;hold the pass&quot; Spartan style against a horde (60 or so) mutant orcs (I used Grimlocks, but that's neither here nor there; they were all CR 1) and their mutant giant (Ettin) ruler.&nbsp; The PCs fought valiantly, burning through spells and hp as they should have been.&nbsp; Eventually, the PC goblin rogue was able to sneak around and make with the stabby versus the ettin, opening up the situation for the PCs to destroy the leader and cause the remaining orcs to flee back into their warrens.&nbsp; Overall, it wasa&nbsp; good battle, lots of fun with an epic feel.&nbsp; Despite the use of 3.5 specific abilities and rules, I think the battle would have run much the same way in any edition (I don't use the battleboard unless absolutely necessary).&nbsp; So, that's not what the difference was.After the fight, the PCs had a chance to rest and the players asked, since they were deep in the bowls of the dungeon and still had a long way to go to get home, if I would calc XP.&nbsp; Sure!&nbsp; I have never been big on requiring training times, etc... so I went ahead and did it.With no bonus XP for roleplaying or the like, the PCs each got @ 2500 xp.&nbsp; That's half a level.&nbsp; From one encounter.&nbsp; In 1e or 2e, each PC would have gotten somewhere around 350 XP for the same exact encounter and would require about 2x as much to go up a level.&nbsp; Wow.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 3421325, member: 467"] This is one I noticed when my regular 3.5 group met on Sunday for a long dungeon crawl session. I was aware of it, but as I am currently re-examining my 1E and 2E books, it really struck me. The PCs (5th level) ended up having to "hold the pass" Spartan style against a horde (60 or so) mutant orcs (I used Grimlocks, but that's neither here nor there; they were all CR 1) and their mutant giant (Ettin) ruler. The PCs fought valiantly, burning through spells and hp as they should have been. Eventually, the PC goblin rogue was able to sneak around and make with the stabby versus the ettin, opening up the situation for the PCs to destroy the leader and cause the remaining orcs to flee back into their warrens. Overall, it wasa good battle, lots of fun with an epic feel. Despite the use of 3.5 specific abilities and rules, I think the battle would have run much the same way in any edition (I don't use the battleboard unless absolutely necessary). So, that's not what the difference was. After the fight, the PCs had a chance to rest and the players asked, since they were deep in the bowls of the dungeon and still had a long way to go to get home, if I would calc XP. Sure! I have never been big on requiring training times, etc... so I went ahead and did it. With no bonus XP for roleplaying or the like, the PCs each got @ 2500 xp. That's half a level. From one encounter. In 1e or 2e, each PC would have gotten somewhere around 350 XP for the same exact encounter and would require about 2x as much to go up a level. Wow. [/QUOTE]

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