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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3423819" data-attributes="member: 22779">In your experience of course.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />IME, mountains of items pretty much is exactly what 1e was about.  1 MILLION gp's worth of cash treasure in the G series alone.  Never mind the cash value of the literally hundreds of magic items contained therein.IME, we leveled every 4-6 sessions.  18 month campaign ended at 16th level.  Yup, that's the same.IME, you were pretty much gods among men after about 5th level.  Other than some very, very few monsters, nothing could touch you in melee combat.  Heck, in this thread alone, we had people talking about how reasonable it might be for 5th level characters to kill a type VI demon.That last one is one of the biggest differences for me.  I still can't get used to the fact that at any given level, a PC is about two full attacks away from being dead from most equal CR critters.  You could stand naked in front of most 1e monsters for a couple of rounds before you started to get worried.  It took bloody armies to challenge PC's.  Look at Keep on the Borderlands.  There's encounters in there for 1st or 2nd level characters with 20 (ish) orcs or goblins.  These are encounters the players are expected to win.  While the EL calculations tend to break down in 3e with that many critters, that's an EL 5 encounter.  Pretty much certain death for 1st level characters and probably 2nd as well.Talk about the powerups all you like, but, that's nothing compared to the huge increase in power the monsters got.</blockquote>

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