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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3433602" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Oh, look, it's that poor horse being beaten to death yet again. Won't someone just shoot the darn thing?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet, one of the biggest complaints about 3e is how much time and work it takes to be a DM. Funny that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, we have a mixture of player entitlement whining AND cheap shots at WOTC for being the evil company that they are. Nice combo. 20+ FR books? Umm, have you looked at the number of FR books TSR cranked out? Plus, even after all these books, the cleric, druid and wizard are STILL the most powerful classes in the game. So much for power creep.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Have you actually opened the covers of a WOTC book in the last two years? Haven't you noticed all the complaints that the books are too fluff heavy? PrC's now taking up three or four pages where they used to be one? Plus, the rather large amount of dead trees devoted to toning down the mistakes of the past, like polymorph? But, I suppose actually taking a look at the facts would get in the way of a good rant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All the time. I've never played in a game where you can use any material from any book. And, I'm willing to bet that those who have are in a very small minority. I could be wrong, but, somehow I think the spineless DM scenario where he's being run roughshod by his players is yet another Internet bugaboo that gets tossed around.</p><p></p><p>Besides, if you want some good powercreep, let's hear it for Faiths and Avatars and Unearthed Arcana. Two books that aren't powercreep, but power leaps! Yes, fighters need 3/2 attacks and +3 to hit and damage at first level, thank you for asking. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3433602, member: 22779"] Oh, look, it's that poor horse being beaten to death yet again. Won't someone just shoot the darn thing? Yet, one of the biggest complaints about 3e is how much time and work it takes to be a DM. Funny that. Wow, we have a mixture of player entitlement whining AND cheap shots at WOTC for being the evil company that they are. Nice combo. 20+ FR books? Umm, have you looked at the number of FR books TSR cranked out? Plus, even after all these books, the cleric, druid and wizard are STILL the most powerful classes in the game. So much for power creep. Have you actually opened the covers of a WOTC book in the last two years? Haven't you noticed all the complaints that the books are too fluff heavy? PrC's now taking up three or four pages where they used to be one? Plus, the rather large amount of dead trees devoted to toning down the mistakes of the past, like polymorph? But, I suppose actually taking a look at the facts would get in the way of a good rant. All the time. I've never played in a game where you can use any material from any book. And, I'm willing to bet that those who have are in a very small minority. I could be wrong, but, somehow I think the spineless DM scenario where he's being run roughshod by his players is yet another Internet bugaboo that gets tossed around. Besides, if you want some good powercreep, let's hear it for Faiths and Avatars and Unearthed Arcana. Two books that aren't powercreep, but power leaps! Yes, fighters need 3/2 attacks and +3 to hit and damage at first level, thank you for asking. :) [/QUOTE]
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