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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3435580" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>But, in previous editions, there were very, very few decisions to be made for character development at all. If you were a fighter at 1st level, you were going to be a fighter at 15th level. The only difference was possibly a couple of proficiencies and equipment. Mechanically, there were almost no choices possible. It is a bit disingenious to say that 3e forces a certain playstyle without mentioning the fact that that playstyle wasn't even possible previously. </p><p></p><p>Yes, you should look ahead to what you may be doing a few levels or even several levels. That's the entire point of giving players control over how their characters develop. Previously, there was very little control over the development of a character. Note, I'm specifically referring to mechanical development. Role play development is a bit of a different beast and is possible in any edition. </p><p></p><p>Do decisions made while adventuring have more or less impact on character development? I don't really see how either way. You had almost no impact on character development mechanically previously and in 3e, it is possible to develop the mechanics of your character independently of the story in the game. If I want to take the Mystic Theurge PrC, for example, it doesn't really matter if the game is a high intrigue court plot or straight up dungeon crawl. I can do it in either campaign.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You didn't answer my question. Where is Rule 0 stated outside of the 1e PHB and maybe the DMG? It is stated in almost every player related book in 3e. It is stated numerous times in Dragon magazine. It has been stated and restated time and time again. How many times does it need to be stated?</p><p></p><p>How many times do you have to repeat the same refrain before it becomes a rule? </p><p></p><p>BTW, where is it stated that the DM should say yes in 3e?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3435580, member: 22779"] But, in previous editions, there were very, very few decisions to be made for character development at all. If you were a fighter at 1st level, you were going to be a fighter at 15th level. The only difference was possibly a couple of proficiencies and equipment. Mechanically, there were almost no choices possible. It is a bit disingenious to say that 3e forces a certain playstyle without mentioning the fact that that playstyle wasn't even possible previously. Yes, you should look ahead to what you may be doing a few levels or even several levels. That's the entire point of giving players control over how their characters develop. Previously, there was very little control over the development of a character. Note, I'm specifically referring to mechanical development. Role play development is a bit of a different beast and is possible in any edition. Do decisions made while adventuring have more or less impact on character development? I don't really see how either way. You had almost no impact on character development mechanically previously and in 3e, it is possible to develop the mechanics of your character independently of the story in the game. If I want to take the Mystic Theurge PrC, for example, it doesn't really matter if the game is a high intrigue court plot or straight up dungeon crawl. I can do it in either campaign. You didn't answer my question. Where is Rule 0 stated outside of the 1e PHB and maybe the DMG? It is stated in almost every player related book in 3e. It is stated numerous times in Dragon magazine. It has been stated and restated time and time again. How many times does it need to be stated? How many times do you have to repeat the same refrain before it becomes a rule? BTW, where is it stated that the DM should say yes in 3e? [/QUOTE]
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