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<blockquote data-quote="molonel" data-source="post: 3443489" data-attributes="member: 10412">C&amp;C I can't speak to. I've heard C&amp;C is much easier, and I'm sure in some aspects of that game are easier. 1st Edition AD&amp;D? I'd argue that. Some numbers go up, and that's a good thing. Other numbers go down, and that's a good thing. It's still a learning curve.NPC or PC creation in high-level games is unnecessarily difficult. Don't even get me started on epic. Anything 1st through 10th, I could almost literally do in my sleep.I know. Raven Crowking pointed that out. I violated my own &quot;No posting before coffee&quot; policy. I'm drinking my first cup, now, and remembering why I made that policy to begin with. You're free to completely disregard that post. I would delete it, but I prefer to let it hang there in all of its foolish glory.Sure. D&amp;D character creation takes longer than five minutes, and if 5-minute character creation is a must-have for someone, I'd recommend they stay far away from D&amp;D, far far away from anything by White Wolf, and far far far far far far far far away from GURPS.In order for them to understand ALL the rules? I don't understand ALL the rules. That's part of the reason I come on message forums: to discuss the rules, and learn about them. Learning how to play a game - any game - takes time. D&amp;D has a learning curve, sure. But magnitudes larger? No, I don't buy that at all. I've taught people how to play in a single pick-up session, and you know what? That's not unreasonable.You didn't. I freely conceded that, already.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="molonel, post: 3443489, member: 10412"] C&C I can't speak to. I've heard C&C is much easier, and I'm sure in some aspects of that game are easier. 1st Edition AD&D? I'd argue that. Some numbers go up, and that's a good thing. Other numbers go down, and that's a good thing. It's still a learning curve. NPC or PC creation in high-level games is unnecessarily difficult. Don't even get me started on epic. Anything 1st through 10th, I could almost literally do in my sleep. I know. Raven Crowking pointed that out. I violated my own "No posting before coffee" policy. I'm drinking my first cup, now, and remembering why I made that policy to begin with. You're free to completely disregard that post. I would delete it, but I prefer to let it hang there in all of its foolish glory. Sure. D&D character creation takes longer than five minutes, and if 5-minute character creation is a must-have for someone, I'd recommend they stay far away from D&D, far far away from anything by White Wolf, and far far far far far far far far away from GURPS. In order for them to understand ALL the rules? I don't understand ALL the rules. That's part of the reason I come on message forums: to discuss the rules, and learn about them. Learning how to play a game - any game - takes time. D&D has a learning curve, sure. But magnitudes larger? No, I don't buy that at all. I've taught people how to play in a single pick-up session, and you know what? That's not unreasonable. You didn't. I freely conceded that, already. [/QUOTE]

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