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<blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 3445103" data-attributes="member: 3608">Nitpick: Games are generally not intuitive. They can be intuitable. (Not that it really matters...)(9_9) It's little surprise that late classic, late 1e, &amp; early 2e have similar features, since they represent a fairly narrow slice of the game's history. So, I felt it was worth representing for pre-1985 D&amp;D.Besides, did Mentzer really complicate it greatly? Am I wrong that my statements about chargen held through the Companion set? What did the Master set (or even Immortal) add to 1st level chargen? I thought the general skill system didn't appear until the Gazs. Is weapon mastery in the Master set?Well, if this is only an examination of the differences between editions except Basic/Expert, then I'm out. (^_^)Honestly, the quick chargen is a side issue to me. I prefer B/X over 3e because it has fewer rules, leaves more open to interpretation, &amp; I generally prefer the rules it does have to the 3e equivalents. Although it can be a casual game, it doesn't have to be. It may sometimes be nice that, by the numbers, creating a character takes five minutes &amp; leveling takes one minute, but in practice my players actually take a lot more time than that creating &amp; developing thier PCs beyond the numbers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RFisher, post: 3445103, member: 3608"] Nitpick: Games are generally not [i]intuitive[/i]. They can be [i]intuitable[/i]. (Not that it really matters...) (9_9) It's little surprise that late classic, late 1e, & early 2e have similar features, since they represent a fairly narrow slice of the game's history. So, I felt it was worth representing for pre-1985 D&D. Besides, did Mentzer [i]really[/i] complicate it greatly? Am I wrong that my statements about chargen held through the Companion set? What did the Master set (or even Immortal) add to 1st level chargen? I thought the general skill system didn't appear until the Gazs. Is weapon mastery in the Master set? Well, if this is only an examination of the differences between editions except Basic/Expert, then I'm out. (^_^) Honestly, the quick chargen is a side issue to me. I prefer B/X over 3e because it has fewer rules, leaves more open to interpretation, & I generally prefer the rules it does have to the 3e equivalents. Although it [i]can[/i] be a casual game, it doesn't have to be. It may sometimes be nice that, by the numbers, creating a character takes five minutes & leveling takes one minute, but in practice my players actually take a lot more time than that creating & developing thier PCs beyond the numbers. [/QUOTE]

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