ANNOUNCING: Tylerworld, the Epic 100,000 page Campaign Setting!

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Ed No'r'ton[/B]

You should be shot for that.

 

[JChung2003]

I'm glad I'm not the only one in the world to find this highly annoying. No need to break format where-ever you see fit. I also don't like 11 or 12. They should be one-teen and two-teen.

Actually, to be consistent with the naming convention, eleven and twelve should be "firsteen" and "seconteen," not "one-teen" and "two-teen."

11 = firsteen = "first" teen
12 = seconteen = "second" teen
13 = thirteen = "third" teen
14 = fourteen = "fourth" teen
15 = fifteen = "fifth" teen
and so...

hee hee hee hee

 

[Kaffis]

Doesn't help. Even if there were only one letter on each of the pages, there are not enough ELECTRONS in the universe to store a googleplex of bits electronically. (Apprx size of universe 10^89 particles.) The Google, 10^100 was chosen such that it would be bigger than the number of particles in the universe. The Googleplex was just someone being silly. since it is a number that cannot be represented using all the matter in the universe.

But what if you used some really outstanding compression algorithms?

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Did they get rid of alignment?

Only good alignments. Everything's just a shade of evil now. No'r'ton was Sorta Evil, but I also could have chosen from Creepy Evil, Wannabe Evil, Evil Evil, Chaotic Evil, Vile Evil, Not-Even-A-Little-Bit Evil, and Puppy-Smacking Evil.

 

[s/LaSH]

But what if you used some really outstanding compression algorithms?

Ah, the joy of google page documents...

Even if you take out our Solar System before lining up those 10^89 particles, the changes aren't noticed for 36 decimal points. (I think. Been a while since I've used Avogadro's number.) So I think we can afford to retain our homewold and source of energy.

Once that allowance is made, break the Universe down into two columns, each of 5x10^88 particles. Then use a coordinated relationship between the two columns as a binary pair. (We'll ignore superstate qubits for the sake of conventional sanity.) You can have 00, 01, 10 and 11 - four combinations or four different levels per 'position' along the UniColumns, thus bringing the total data storing facility up to 2x10^89 bits.

Using this principle, you reach 1 google bits with 37 'splits' (thus 2^37 columns). You need a little more than that for each page, however - assuming each page takes up 1 megabyte of data (including hi-res illustrations, indexing and backgrounds), the total number of columns rises to 2^57, making the columns a mere 10^72 particles in length.

Now, assuming that these particles are stored in some quantum matrix that can keep them 1 nanometer apart, the length of the array is therefore only 10^63m (10^47 light years), which is still rather large - it would take a hundred billion pentillion pentillion years to check an obscure rulepoint unless you were able to violate our current understanding of physics.

When my bones have crumbled to dust, and the dust has been consumed by time, and the planet has been consumed by stellar expansion, and the star has died, and the stellar fragments have been recycled by natural processes ten pentillion pentillion times, I'll have a review for this product. If I can get my head around the system. (That is, if matter and vacuum are still intact at that point in time, and the Universe hasn't imploded a few dozen times.)



I'm just making this up, by the way. I'm not checking my calculations or assumptions or even the mathematical theories that I'm using.

And in case anyone's interested, a 13,000 page setting barely tops the human knee when stacked. Not really all that impressive... until you start thinking in terms of reality.

 

[orbitalfreak]

Actually, to be consistent with the naming convention, eleven and twelve should be "firsteen" and "seconteen," not "one-teen" and "two-teen."

11 = firsteen = "first" teen
12 = seconteen = "second" teen
13 = thirteen = "third" teen
14 = fourteen = "fourth" teen
15 = fifteen = "fifth" teen
and so...

hee hee hee hee

Actually, the one-teen isn't sitting well with me right now. The x-teen naming convention is opposite that of higher "tens-groups." For all the other tens-groups, the tens digit name comes first. For instance, TWENTY-one, THIRTY-five, not one-twenty or five-thirty.

Also, each tens-group has its initial "x0" member's name provide the base of the name of the other numbers in that group. e.g., twenty (20) forms the base of twenty-one through twenty-nine. It should work like that for the teens, as well.

Therefore, I propose we name the numbers as follows
10: teen
11: teen-one
12: teen-two
13: teen-three
14: teen-four
15: teen-five
16: teen-six
17: teen-seven
18: teen-eight
19: teen-nine
20: twenty

On reviewing this, I've come to a conclusion: I'm crazy, and have way too much time on my hands !

 

[Zhure]

Main Entry: elev·en
Pronunciation: i-'le-v&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English enleven, from enleven, adjective, from Old English endleofan, from end- (alteration of An one) + -leofan; akin to Old English lEon to lend

Main Entry: twelve
Pronunciation: 'twelv
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English twelf; akin to Old High German zwelif twelve, Old English twA two, -leofan (as in endleofan eleven)

So eleven means "and one left over" and twelve means "and two left over."

I am strongly drawn to the "oneteen, twoteen, threeteen, fourteen" pattern, but eleven and twelve really are only anachronistic throwbacks to the beginnings of the base 10 counting system. I'm just glad people with extra fingers weren't more common. But I bet it'd make cheating at dice rolls easier. Would glove sizes include a finger rating?

 

[Desdichado]

The x-teen naming convention is opposite that of higher "tens-groups."

The x-teens haven't had a consistent naming convention. I mean, what do New Mutants and X-Force have in common, anyway?

 

[s/LaSH]

The x-teens haven't had a consistent naming convention. I mean, what do New Mutants and X-Force have in common, anyway?

X-Statix these days. Not X-Force. Largely for franchising reasons (ones inside the comic - the new guys fought the 'real' X-Force at a press conference, and it turns out that the 'real' X-Force gets royalty payments, and because of something important that happened they changed over to X-Statix). Good comic. Harrowing stuff, especially the reason they changed names...

Just goes to show, however, that names will never work properly unless Doctor Doom comes to rule Earth, in which case everything will be Made Better.

 

[rounser]

Yes, that's right- 100,000 pages! 100,000 pages of gaming goodness! It'll take up your entire bookshelf! You won't be able to get it to your gaming table!

I think I'll wait for the errata to come out. Does it have an index?

How good's the binding, or are you offering a forklift in lieu of that?