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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MarkChevallier" data-source="post: 4274202" data-attributes="member: 55538">Hi guys, I appreciate the feedback.Some points:You are correct to say that encountering Orcus (for example, any Solo will do) with assistants means that using this power you cannot kill him alone. But remember, you should still have your party with you; if they can hold off the enemy you should be okay. And you can always fly away invisibly, or teleport to the astral plane or something, and wait the fight out, all the while sustaining your deadly grasp on Orcus. (You can sustain a power even when not in sight of the target; for evidence, I submit the Invisibility power).This is very true; the point of the trick isn't to kill Orcus quickly. Just to do it with (provided the initial attack is made) ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY (as you point out). There's no risk, no save and no follow up attack needed. He's dead.A tricked out Wis Cleric has a Wis of 30, for a +10 bonus (the last +2 comes from Demigod). On top of that, they carry a +6 holy symbol. That's +16 per damage roll. It's probably trivially easy to scrape together some extra damage from other PCs, but the super-optimisation of this trick isn't my goal: just the demonstration that it is a very easily achieved, no-brainer tactic that will (again, contingent on your initial attack roll) seriously ruin any Solo's day.And you have got your regeneration maths all wrong. The Cleric regenerates 30 per round and takes on average 27 damage. With regards to the Necrotic aura, I put to you that once he has begun the power, he walks out of the aura's range. He doesn't need to remain in range to sustain the power.Well, in 3.5, an attack was only considered an attack for rules purposes if it made an attack roll. I'm not sure if that's still the case; in any event, Slashing Wake is not an attack power, so could still be used to inflict craploads of damage on Orcus using an Arcane Gate teleport setup (say, 36 damage every round or so with the right arrangement). Of course, any GM is free to Rule 0 this (ie, not use the RAW) and say that they don't allow any other damage to take place at all. Then you're doing 1350 damage with your power, which I still think is quite some bang for your buck. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I know, it isn't simple in the sense of "a level 3 gnome can do this". But it is simple in that it's a very straight forward mix of 2 powers. If I'm a Cleric at that level, I look at Seal of Binding, and I think "no save, cool, how do I circumvent the damage?" and there is a very easy way to achieve that sitting on a nearby epic destiny.The existence of this combo is, again, disappointing. I think someone may have overlooked it at the playtesting stage. Really, any GM should fix the trick by Rule 0-ing the power to work in a slightly different way (as brehobit suggests), the same as they should for Cascade of Blades; it's just annoying that they have to.</blockquote>

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