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<blockquote data-quote="RobNJ" data-source="post: 378245" data-attributes="member: 3617"><p>They're not even a slightly accurate sampling of opinion. This board is good for getting ideas or for checking whether things balance or for just shooting the (I don't know how censorious these boards are so I'll just say) crap. They are not at all a good sample of gamer opinion or behavior because the sample is so infinitessimally small.</p><p></p><p>Pardon me, but please show me where I stated that mine is a majority opinion? If I did that, I was wrong, but I don't believe I did.</p><p></p><p>The only thing possibly arguing that is that Paizo is publishing a magazine based in part on their own examinations of what their readers want. That's going to be more reliable than angry cranks on a message board.</p><p></p><p>I don't believe I've done much with people who didn't claim to be speaking for me. What pisses me off is when people say, "Gamers don't like this," or, "We want more of that." And when people are unreasonable and eager to see faults were there are none. Expressing an opinion, providing constructive criticism, these are useful things. I react to stuff like: "This is a fact, this is what everyone wants, and I know, so you'd better do it, and by the way you stink and you dress funny," which is the content of a lot of the criticism to be found here.</p><p></p><p>I also get irritable about people who are like, "If I don't like it it shouldn't be in the magazine." Bullcrap. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean there aren't others who do. I don't want: "Rob: The Gaming Magazine for Rob." I am fine with Dragon sometimes including things that I don't necessarily like, because I'm clued in to reality enough to know that the world isn't catered to my personal idosynchracies.</p><p></p><p>Legitimate gripes, constructive criticism, etc., presented in a reasonable and polite way are perfectly fine. But, "WotC <strong>VIOLATES!!!!!!!</strong> the OGL," isn't.</p><p></p><p>I would have said, "Hey, it seems like WotC made a mistake in the OGL for MMII. Kinda funny, given how they're having to deal with people routinely screwing these up." Nowhere near as inflammatory.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of posts on this thread that fit that spirit. They provide reasoned criticism and don't appear to come out of a, "hate the overdog," thing.</p><p></p><p>Correction, I didn't say, "Everyone thinks you do a great job." Mine is a clear statement of opinion, I'm not claiming to speak for anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RobNJ, post: 378245, member: 3617"] They're not even a slightly accurate sampling of opinion. This board is good for getting ideas or for checking whether things balance or for just shooting the (I don't know how censorious these boards are so I'll just say) crap. They are not at all a good sample of gamer opinion or behavior because the sample is so infinitessimally small. Pardon me, but please show me where I stated that mine is a majority opinion? If I did that, I was wrong, but I don't believe I did. The only thing possibly arguing that is that Paizo is publishing a magazine based in part on their own examinations of what their readers want. That's going to be more reliable than angry cranks on a message board. I don't believe I've done much with people who didn't claim to be speaking for me. What pisses me off is when people say, "Gamers don't like this," or, "We want more of that." And when people are unreasonable and eager to see faults were there are none. Expressing an opinion, providing constructive criticism, these are useful things. I react to stuff like: "This is a fact, this is what everyone wants, and I know, so you'd better do it, and by the way you stink and you dress funny," which is the content of a lot of the criticism to be found here. I also get irritable about people who are like, "If I don't like it it shouldn't be in the magazine." Bullcrap. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean there aren't others who do. I don't want: "Rob: The Gaming Magazine for Rob." I am fine with Dragon sometimes including things that I don't necessarily like, because I'm clued in to reality enough to know that the world isn't catered to my personal idosynchracies. Legitimate gripes, constructive criticism, etc., presented in a reasonable and polite way are perfectly fine. But, "WotC [b]VIOLATES!!!!!!![/b] the OGL," isn't. I would have said, "Hey, it seems like WotC made a mistake in the OGL for MMII. Kinda funny, given how they're having to deal with people routinely screwing these up." Nowhere near as inflammatory. There are plenty of posts on this thread that fit that spirit. They provide reasoned criticism and don't appear to come out of a, "hate the overdog," thing. Correction, I didn't say, "Everyone thinks you do a great job." Mine is a clear statement of opinion, I'm not claiming to speak for anyone. [/QUOTE]
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