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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 36430" data-attributes="member: 1656">I disagree there.Opposed Grapple Checks are used to a/ Deal Grappling damage; b/ Pin; c/ Break a Pin; or d/ Escape.Weapons, Spells, or Wriggle Free come after the statement &quot;In addition to making opposed grapple checks, you have a few other options while grappling&quot;.If someone has a hideous AC, but a poor grapple modifier, you're better off trying to deal grapple damage - essentially, their &quot;armor class&quot; is their grapple check.If someone has a really high grapple modifier, but an average AC, you're better off using a dagger, because you likely will lose opposed grapple checks, but you can still make attacks while grappling with the dagger.&nbsp; By the rules, you could even punch them in this situation instead of trying to deal grappling damage.&nbsp; In this situation, though, you'd better hope they don't have multiple attacks... 'cos they'll just pin you every round and use their other attacks to whomp on you.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 36430, member: 1656"] I disagree there. Opposed Grapple Checks are used to a/ Deal Grappling damage; b/ Pin; c/ Break a Pin; or d/ Escape. Weapons, Spells, or Wriggle Free come after the statement "In addition to making opposed grapple checks, you have a few other options while grappling". If someone has a hideous AC, but a poor grapple modifier, you're better off trying to deal grapple damage - essentially, their "armor class" is their grapple check. If someone has a really high grapple modifier, but an average AC, you're better off using a dagger, because you likely will lose opposed grapple checks, but you can still make attacks while grappling with the dagger. By the rules, you could even punch them in this situation instead of trying to deal grappling damage. In this situation, though, you'd better hope they don't have multiple attacks... 'cos they'll just pin you every round and use their other attacks to whomp on you. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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