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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2399762" data-attributes="member: 326">Hiya mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I'm afraid not. I used to read Piratecats Story Hour (a few years back this is) but that was the only Story Hour I followed for a time.Interesting...I'll take a look.I both agree and disagree with these comments.I also, hate the idea of class levels on Outsiders (I don't use any in the Immortals Handbook: Bestiary). However, for me the reasoning is different. The ability to gain class levels denotes a measure of free will, that is simply something Outsiders never have, and by Outsiders I am specifically refering to 'spirits', such as Demons, Devils, Angels etc. Now that is not to say that Outsiders do not understand free will (I sort of touch on this in the IH: Bestiary with the whole idea of Dimensional Bleeding and the problems that initially caused). But Outsiders are not 'born' of free will, unlike mortals.To get a bit more technical, mortals are born of the Dimension of Assiah, the Material Plane. This is the dimension of space and is linked to fate. It comprises of 3 dimensions (left-right, forward-back, up-down) and as such, choice, is ingrained within it.All the other dimensions are comprised of a single dimension. Therefore true free will does not exist for its natives.Thats why demons are Always Chaotic Evil for example.  I don't like this idea, it assumes total stagnation. Angels and demons are frequently destroyed, typically others will rise to fill the hole, but these replacements (or their power ups) do not simply pop up out of the blue. As to how spirits grow, I'll explain fully in the Immortals Handbook. Although one method is similar to Highlanders 'Quickening'.If they truly embraced individualism they wouldn't be assigned a set alignment, so I disagree with the above conjecture. Interesting though.Unless the being who created them (or the process that led to their creation) was itself bereft of free will. Seemingly yes, although not necessarily for the same reasons.QUOTE=Cheiromancer]Could you have different (bitterly opposed) religions who worship the same deity?  Although this is obviously (and painfully) possible in our world, it would seem that it would be impossible in most D&D campaigns.</blockquote>It would probably depend upon either divine cooperation or divine antipathy.Either the deity would actively support the schism (assumes a chaotic god, probably neutral or even evil), or the deity is simply so far removed from the day to day workings of its worshippers that it doesn't really care that much (at least Intermediate power, more likely Greater power).Ambiguity is more of a DMs caveat, rather than a systemic property.[/QUOTE]

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