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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2401932" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi Cheiromancer mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Of course, but the catalyst for their fall is always something extreneous to their being.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To expand upon my point above. </p><p></p><p>Lucifer revolted because of the attention GOD was giving to mortals.</p><p></p><p>Semyaza subsequently revolted after a period wherein the Grigori were living amidst mortals.</p><p></p><p>Its clear that in both cases 'dimensional bleeding' led to the revolts. In the first instance 'free will' was introduced to heaven, and in the second the angels were living within the dimension of mortals for an extended period of time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>These 'choice points' I would (for the most part) consider dimensional bleeding.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By the same token I don't believe all devils (or demons) were once angels. Some are simply the once souls of mortals.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that is true for all spirits. Once the soul arrives at its destination and becomes a spirit, it is inevitably and inextricably linked to that plane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have a list and alignment of all the gods and pantheons I hope to include within the Immortals Index. I have been able to spread the Pantheons out over the various alignments which of course meant that I was taking a few liberties with some of them, such as the Canaanite God, El which I have as Lawful Evil.</p><p></p><p>However each Pantheon has a mirror opposite that allows you to simply swop the alignments around. So for instance the Greek Pantheon is led by the Chaotic Good Zeus, whereas its shadow counterpart (the occult term for this is <em>favarshi</em>); the Roman Pantheon is led by the Lawful Evil Jupiter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm curious, have you seen the Bestiary Vol.1 yet? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have read a few issues, but not enough to really familiarise myself with it.</p><p></p><p>Are there any trades for this that would get me into it quick (presumably collecting the first half dozen or so issues would do the trick I imagine)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 2401932, member: 326"] Hi Cheiromancer mate! :) Of course, but the catalyst for their fall is always something extreneous to their being. To expand upon my point above. Lucifer revolted because of the attention GOD was giving to mortals. Semyaza subsequently revolted after a period wherein the Grigori were living amidst mortals. Its clear that in both cases 'dimensional bleeding' led to the revolts. In the first instance 'free will' was introduced to heaven, and in the second the angels were living within the dimension of mortals for an extended period of time. These 'choice points' I would (for the most part) consider dimensional bleeding. By the same token I don't believe all devils (or demons) were once angels. Some are simply the once souls of mortals. I think that is true for all spirits. Once the soul arrives at its destination and becomes a spirit, it is inevitably and inextricably linked to that plane. I have a list and alignment of all the gods and pantheons I hope to include within the Immortals Index. I have been able to spread the Pantheons out over the various alignments which of course meant that I was taking a few liberties with some of them, such as the Canaanite God, El which I have as Lawful Evil. However each Pantheon has a mirror opposite that allows you to simply swop the alignments around. So for instance the Greek Pantheon is led by the Chaotic Good Zeus, whereas its shadow counterpart (the occult term for this is [I]favarshi[/I]); the Roman Pantheon is led by the Lawful Evil Jupiter. I'm curious, have you seen the Bestiary Vol.1 yet? I have read a few issues, but not enough to really familiarise myself with it. Are there any trades for this that would get me into it quick (presumably collecting the first half dozen or so issues would do the trick I imagine)? [/QUOTE]
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