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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2402085" data-attributes="member: 141">No.&nbsp; I was hoping that it would get to RPG Now before very much longer.Yeah.&nbsp; The 8th one just came out.&nbsp; (Issue 45 and 50-54).&nbsp; Issue 50 is &quot;Lilith&quot; and has its own take on Lucifer's fall.&nbsp; Still what you would call &quot;dimensional bleeding,&quot; though. (Lilith's seduction of one of the angels is instrumental in getting it started.&nbsp; But Lilith is Adam's first wife and is human, though apparently both immortal and extremely fertile).&nbsp; On God's standoffishness.&nbsp; Issue 50 has a little dialogue between Lucifer (whose proper name is Samael) and Gabriel.Gabriel- &quot;Yahweh has said nothing to any of us since the business of Creation was finished.&nbsp; But he fashioned us to be his hands and his tools.&nbsp; For us to remain idle would therefore be a sin.&quot;Samael/Lucifer- &quot;So we are to finish out eternity trying to second-guess his intentions?&nbsp; To be his tools?&nbsp; As if there were some kind of nobility in self-abasement?&quot;Gabriel- &quot;And is there not?&quot;Samael/Lucifer- &quot;None that I can see.&nbsp; We are his children-- his first-born.&nbsp; The freedom he enjoys is our birthright too.&quot;Etc.The movie &quot;What dreams may come&quot; surprised me when it came out- God seemed as inaccessible to the souls of the dead as to living beings.&nbsp; But now the trope is more familiar; he is more or less equally (in)accessible to all finite beings.Now, I don't know if mortals were a factor in the Great Revolt in Sep's mythos.&nbsp; They were seeking greater freedom and autonomy, but I don't know if this desire was triggered by something outside of them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 2402085, member: 141"] No. I was hoping that it would get to RPG Now before very much longer. Yeah. The 8th one just came out. (Issue 45 and 50-54). Issue 50 is "Lilith" and has its own take on Lucifer's fall. Still what you would call "dimensional bleeding," though. (Lilith's seduction of one of the angels is instrumental in getting it started. But Lilith is Adam's first wife and is human, though apparently both immortal and extremely fertile). On God's standoffishness. Issue 50 has a little dialogue between Lucifer (whose proper name is Samael) and Gabriel. Gabriel- "Yahweh has said nothing to any of us since the business of Creation was finished. But he fashioned us to be his hands and his tools. For us to remain idle would therefore be a sin." Samael/Lucifer- "So we are to finish out eternity trying to second-guess his intentions? To be his [b]tools[/b]? As if there were some kind of nobility in self-abasement?" Gabriel- "And is there not?" Samael/Lucifer- "None that I can see. We are his children-- his first-born. The freedom he enjoys is our birthright too." Etc. The movie "What dreams may come" surprised me when it came out- God seemed as inaccessible to the souls of the dead as to living beings. But now the trope is more familiar; he is more or less equally (in)accessible to all finite beings. Now, I don't know if mortals were a factor in the Great Revolt in Sep's mythos. They were seeking greater freedom and autonomy, but I don't know if this desire was triggered by something outside of them. [/QUOTE]

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