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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 2550976" data-attributes="member: 474">Yep, it's just different approaches for different tastes.  Your method is good, too.In almost all cases, yes.  I think they should usually be twice as powerful, and sometimes even more.  Of course, in some cases (spell penetration and initiative) I think that the numerical increase should be about the same.You don't need any special abilities to smite more than once in a give round.  A fifth-level paladin can smite twice in a round if she has that many attacks (two-weapon fighting, attacks of opportunity, etc.).So much for a "one-upmanship that is detrimental to the game".  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> I'm not sure this will help much.  A straightforward damage analysis will tell you that "doubling" the critical multipliers (x2 --> x3, x3 --> x5, x4 --> x7; or x2 --> x4, x3 --> x7, x4--> x10) gives the same damage on average.  The trouble is that the high crit weapons will tend to have wasted damage and the low crit weapons will have unimpressive effects (even though the long-run damage will be the same if not in their favor).A "vorpal" longsword dealing x3 crits just doesn't seem that special, and it's not even close to a +5 modifier.  A "vorpal" scythe dealing x7 crits will result in a lot of overkill.A better solution, perhaps, is to add a set amount (say, +4) to the critical multiplier, but only when the natural attack roll is 20.  This balances across all weapon types and allows for impressive effects even from swords and the like.  I'm not sure what amount is fair for a +5 modifier, though; frankly it would take a lot.As I'm sure you know, Sean Reynolds would argue that they should.  I have no particular opinion, and nothing to add except:* The situation you mention above with Thor is more easily avoided with strict limits* Sean's argument is sementically compelling and mathematically correct.Just in the same friendly spirit of reminder as before, I'll note that not everyone uses Impact, the Forgotten Realms' extention of keen to bludgeoning.</blockquote>

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