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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 2595552" data-attributes="member: 8461">No PC is ever immune to everything. Sorry, but those sound like bad DMs to me.That's not a problem as far as the system is concerned. Revamping part of the game because some people don't know how to play is madness.If a player is having a hard time killing the monster, and finds that to be enough reason to leave the gaming table, then IMHO, they're not very good players.I'll tell you exactly how the physics of the Plane of Fire top that...as soon as one is discovered.Comparing the science of our sun to a fantasy realm is always doomed to be a foolish comparison. It can only be done as an art, not a science. And the art of it is that the Plane of Fire is the primal source of all fire, all heat, in existence. As such, there shouldn't be a naturally-occuring body of fire that is hotter than it.But I've never gotten such use out of my copy of Bartlett's.Everyone also insisted that the gods moved the heavens, and yet Aristotle explained how the skies were the result of the celestial spheres...and he was dead wrong.I'm giving as good as I'm getting, and I'm enjoying having such a lively debate, especially since we've kept it to the realm of "nice". I don't see the problem.Besides...it's U_K's serve.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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