lordxaviar
Explorer
Lol
Another new (older) spell!!!
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Jimlock
Adventurer
i see you agree..
anest1s
First Post
With that spell available, why would any wizard ever take the silent metamagic feat? I mean usually ppl take this not because they fear a silence spell, but because they want to use spells without being heard.
Well I know I would have this spell prepared at least twice every day. It wont do much difference in combat (except if you are invisible) but off combat it would be nice. Also, why standard action and not full round?
Also how about "for the next minute everything the caster says has a 50% chance of not being heard"...It would be hilarious in social use of the spell (but not really a balance thing
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Well I know I would have this spell prepared at least twice every day. It wont do much difference in combat (except if you are invisible) but off combat it would be nice. Also, why standard action and not full round?
Also how about "for the next minute everything the caster says has a 50% chance of not being heard"...It would be hilarious in social use of the spell (but not really a balance thing
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Jimlock
Adventurer
I disagree.
In my experience, people take silent spell for fear of being silenced, so as to escape in case they are gaged (gaseous form, teleport) etc.), as well as for being able to cast spells when they've turned into something (transmutation) that does not speak. Especially the latter... This spell does not serve for any of the above.
While some few consider taking silent spells so that they can use spells without being heard (in off combat situations), in the end they get discouraged by the fact that they have to spend a spell slot one level higher than the spell they want... so they mostly don't bother.
I've never used it combat. Even while being invisible, i've always had something better to do than waste two rounds so as to cast a spell in silence. Don't forget that a listen check (combat or not) does not allow one to pinpoint the caster, only the general direction (unless he beats it by 20). Imagine that in a combat, with all the distractions and the noise around, its really difficult to know the direction of a single voice... which brings us to the fact that the spell is equally useless in combat... I guess it could find some use in combat, but that would be rare.
As far as the full round question...
I think that the fact that one has to spend two rounds so as to cast something in his silent bubble is enough of a drawback. Moreover it wouldn't really make cense considering the level of the spell.
the Jester
Legend
The only problem I have with this is that it should be called sound bubble, per the nearly identical spell in the 2e Bard's Handbook. 
Jimlock
Adventurer
The only problem I have with this is that it should be called sound bubble, per the nearly identical spell in the 2e Bard's Handbook.
Wow! i didn't know such a spell existed!
so... i dwld it because i was too curious!
It is very similar indeed.
It's a 1st Lvl Bard spell, has a duration of 10rounds + 1 round/level...but the major difference is that it negates noise (not just voice) both ways. Sound can't pass through it.
This means that you can't be heard, but you can't hear neither...
If the bubble is static (as in not cast on a mobile target), it has a radius of 10 feet/level...so as to "enhance the quality and effect of their performances".
RUMBLETiGER
Adventurer
Jimlock
Adventurer
The only problem I have with this is that it should be called sound bubble, per the nearly identical spell in the 2e Bard's Handbook.
so...despite the fact that i did not know of 2e sound bubble beforehand, i will still stick to Dilreen's Contained speech cause the two spells differ both in effect and use...
