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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 4972968" data-attributes="member: 61155">There is no way 'for you' to hide the silliness of this mechanic. Clearly, many other DMs feel differently, and feel they are entirely capable of doing so, and you really aren't in a position to speak on their behalf. Or to imply that it only works if their players are drunk.I mean, I genuinely am sorry that you don't feel you are a capable enough DM to pull this off. But one of the best parts of 4E has been given the DM the ability to weave together imagination, description and powers into a seamless whole. I admit some situations are more challenging than others, but it clearly is doable, and claiming otherwise is simply a dismissal of the accomplishments of a lot of skilled DMs out there. Yeah, uh... you are aware that you can, in fact, run the dragons precisely that way. Have the PCs fight them one at a time. But I'm guessing they feel that fighting a bunch of gold dragons in a row wouldn't be very good game design, and so didn't go that route. That doesn't mean you can't if you want to. But establishing that as the default - that Bahamut always has these allies, and that either the PCs fight them as a group (a terrible, terrible idea) or that they have to lure them away (removing them as a part of the encounter anyway)... yeah, that's just a bad idea, and bad design, no matter how you look at it.</blockquote>