Any Eragon settings in production?

Stalker0 said:
I mean if you think about Star Wars is just a rip off of classic stories. A young boy with little prospects for a good future sudden finds out he has "magic powers", and that he's destined for greatness. He must combat the "evil emperor" across a number of strange lands and encounters many wonderful races. That's about a cliche as it gets:)

Lucas freely admits as much. Star Wars only came of as original because it was the first sci-fi(ish) movie to use the old mythic archetypes so heavily.


I doubt they'll ever be an Eragon RPG. The rights would be very expensive, and most RPG'rs have to much expierence with fantasy to think Eragon is a partiqually strong novel/setting.
 

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To the original poster: to the best of my knowledge there is no Eragon setting available and in development, for the reasons laid out by Meloncov. From what it sounds like though (I haven't read the book or seen the movie), it should be reasonably possible to adapt the regular D&D rules. The magic system of D&D would be the biggest hurdle obviously - it's pretty distinctive, and it doesn't sound like it had much in common with Eragon magic. There's probably a 3rd-party magic system supplement that could do the job though. I'll leave it up to people who've read the book to suggest one...
 

Or, the Dragonriders are Warlocks; but with some really evil-DM type that makes them make scaling Fortitude saves whenever they cast a spell.

Come to think of it, True20.

-TRRW
 

Kishin said:
To be fair, I wouldn't say it stole it. The Star Wars story is pretty much the basic form of dozens of heroic episodes thorought human history. Its pretty much a template at this point.

cough cough Hidden Fortress cough cough...
 

Meloncov said:
Lucas freely admits as much. Star Wars only came of as original because it was the first sci-fi(ish) movie to use the old mythic archetypes so heavily.

Well you know what? He's full of baloney. "Lucas himself was mum about any Campbell influence when the original Star Wars opened."

George Lucas's works are only mythic because people use that word to refer to just about anything in literature. Heck, even soap operas are "mythic" because, you know, the people cheat on each other and so do Zeus and Hera. Is a car commercial "mythic" and "tapping into fundamental archetypes" because it deals with the timeless theme of travel?
 
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Kishin said:
To be fair, I wouldn't say it stole it. The Star Wars story is pretty much the basic form of dozens of heroic episodes thorought human history. Its pretty much a template at this point.

Is this just a template?

http://www.anti-shurtugal.com/starwars.htm said:
A boy of foggy origins lives with his uncle in a remote place of a vast empire headed by an evil Emperor and his right hand man, who was once prominent in an ancient order of guardians with mystical powers.

Through fate or luck, depending on your point of view, this boy comes into the possession of an object vital to a rebellion against the Empire; this object was inadvertently sent to him by a princess in the rebellion, who had attempted to send said object to an old man who once belonged to the same order of guardians as the Emperor’s right-hand man.

This boy seeks the old man to learn of the ways of this ancient order, but eventually has to return to his uncle’s farm, which, the boy finds, has been destroyed by fire, and his uncle killed. The boy then sets off with the old hermit, who also gives him a sword which belonged to his father. As they travel, they train. The boy meets up with a rogue who is full of surprises, but turns out to be fiercely loyal, for all his proclaimed selfishness. The boy also begins "seeing" a beautiful woman imprisoned and in need of help.

The boy decides that he needs to rescue her, even though he doesn't know her; further, he thinks of her only as beautiful (Luke's first words are, "Who is she? She's beautiful?" Eragon can't stop thinking about her beauty). Long story short, the old hermit dies to protect the boy, the boy and the rogue help the beautiful damsel escape.

They then set off to the rebellion to give important information and return the object which the princess had sent the boy. They were followed by the Empire, and prepare for a giant battle that will either save the rebellion or annihilate them.

The boy proves his worth with heroics during the battle, but his crowning achievement is his destruction of a noun of much power that has the ability to destroy lots of things. The boy is aided in this by one of his friends, who arrives at precisely the right moment.
The boy is lauded a hero.

The boy has a hallucination of a powerful master who can teach him more of the ancient order. The boy travels to the powerful master to learn the ways of the ancient order's mystical power. While there, he grows very powerful. While he is away, the Rebellion regroups in a new area.

Just when the boy is on a roll with his training, and has grown very powerful, he has a vision of his friends in great danger. He decides he must go to help them. His master warns him not to go. The boy promises that he will return. He leaves.

He finds his friends just in time and is able to distract the enemy so that his friends will remain safe. He finds out that his father was the right-hand man of the Emperor--his father was the one who betrayed the ancient order and helped kill them.

The boy is shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed. He finds out that someone dear to him has been taken by evil people, and promises to find this person.
 

The thing about Eragon is, it's YA fiction. It's selling to kids, teenagers, that sort (or at least, their parents. The children are reading them). That age group is probably not aware of sources he drew from. Hell, I'm 23 and I just read the Earthsea books a few years ago myself.

As others have said he's not really "stealing," because he's taken a mish-mash of standard fantasy tropes that have been handed down for the past 60 years (even longer) and lumped them all together: the storyline, elves, dwarves, truename magic, his "language." His story has sold well because the story itself is time-tested, and his backdrop and storytelling skills are good enough to present it in a compelling way.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as critical of the whole thing as the next guy. I was constantly groaning throughout those Eragon and Eldest; almost every page had some name or reference or something that I'd read or seen before. But it's pop fantasy, much the same way Star Wars was. It's not terribly original or deep, it's just told in a compelling way and presented to an audience that hasn't experienced this kind of thing before.
 

GoodKingJayIII said:
That age group is probably not aware of sources he drew from.

In my opinion he goes far beyond "drawing upon sources" and is firmly in plagiarism land. It's not all his fault: I blame his publisher and editors, who should have said "sorry, this story is a rip-off of Star Wars. Rewrite it and then we'll talk."
 

lukelightning said:
In my opinion he goes far beyond "drawing upon sources" and is firmly in plagiarism land. It's not all his fault: I blame his publisher and editors, who should have said "sorry, this story is a rip-off of Star Wars. Rewrite it and then we'll talk."

From a literary and creative standpoint, I'm in full agreement. It might not be so clear-cut from a legal standpoint. Still, I think you're right about the publisher. Look at that Yale student this year who basically copied her chicklit novel word for word from a popular YA author.

But if there's a legal battle to be won, a company like Lucasfilm will fight it sooner or later.
 

lukelightning said:
In my opinion he goes far beyond "drawing upon sources" and is firmly in plagiarism land. It's not all his fault: I blame his publisher and editors, who should have said "sorry, this story is a rip-off of Star Wars. Rewrite it and then we'll talk."

The author's publishing company is owned by his parents, for what it's worth. The cynical might conclude that fact had something to do with how he got a publishing deal, and why a less stringent quality standard might have been applied to his work than would be applied to others...
 

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